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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:36 PM
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Obama supports reconsidering USDA worker's ouster
Damn straight. My prediction: Ms. Sherrod will have been offered her job back with fanfare by the end of the week.

Obama supports reconsidering USDA worker's ouster

By JULIE PACE
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A White House official says President Barack Obama supports the Agriculture Department's decision to reconsider the ouster of a black employee for her remarks about race.

The official says Obama hasn't spoken with the employee, Shirley Sherrod, about the controversy. But the president is being kept informed of the developments in her case. The White House official was not authorized to talk publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Sherrod was asked by department officials to resign on Monday after conservative bloggers posted an edited video of her saying she didn't initially give a white farmer as much help as she could have 24 years ago. Sherrod says the video distorted her full speech.

The White House called the Agriculture Department about the case Tuesday night and it was agreed that her ouster should be reviewed based on new evidence

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_USDA_RACISM_RESIGNATION_OBAMA?SITE=OHRAV&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:39 PM
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1. Seriously? WHAT THE FUCKITY FUCK. Now they want to REVIEW?
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:40 PM
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2. People started screaming about this before it was even given a day's chance...
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 01:40 PM by phleshdef
...to be resolved. Fucking knee jerk, needy, instant gratification oriented, ADHD, fuck, fuckity, fuck, fuck, fucks!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:48 PM
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6. If this is true---the entire story comes to Obama Tuesday?!
But on DU---Obama did it.
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Emeritus Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:57 PM
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8. Do you think they would have reviewed it if people had not screamed?
Or did the screaming in the whole progressive blogosphere have no influence in your view.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:00 PM
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9. I don't know, I can't think about your question while everyone is screaming.
Its too loud in here!
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:06 PM
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10. That's because it DESERVES to be "screamed" about.
Some of us are angry over the way this woman was treated by the Obama administration (including his cabinet appointees). That's a valid concern, no matter how you attempt to paint us all as rabid, frothing, idiots.

Don't care? Fine. But don't belittle those of us who do.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:15 PM
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11. I'm belittling the instant gratification nature of all the screaming.
People didn't even give a reasonable amount of time to see how this might be resolved, they just started calling for heads and accusing Obama of being a big dummy doo doo head. Its fucking embarassing.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:13 PM
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12. And the WH/USDA didn't give Sherrod "a reasonable amount of time"...
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 03:15 PM by Ignis
...to explain her side of the story and defend herself from FAUX/O'Keefe's lies, did they?

It's not "accusing Obama of being a big dummy doo doo head" to say that this entire situation was handled incredibly poorly, nor to note that it reflects unfavorably on the judgment of all those involved in the decision to fire Sherrod without a thorough review.

If Obama hasn't clearly told his cabinet appointees not to fire their employees as a knee-jerk reaction to every bullshit RW-media-circus claim, maybe he should! I know when I take on a new job/contract, one of the first things I do is to review the policies and procedures of my predecessor(s) and make changes as appropriate.


ETA a few missing parts of speech. :blush:
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:35 PM
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15. Yes, she has been given time, as has been shown (truth is now known) and the firing CAN be undone.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 03:35 PM by phleshdef
Christ, it took less than a day to sort out the facts and set things straight. You act they fucking killed her or something. People can and have been "unfired" when it was found they were fired for something they didn't do. It happens all the time.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:43 PM
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18. And you "act" like they are completely blameless.
I'm neither frothing at the mouth nor marching on the White House with a torch in one hand and a pitchfork in the other, so how about you tone down the hyperbolic rhetoric, eh?

I don't know if you've ever had a job in the business world or the military, but here's a gem of wisdom used in both environments:

Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:49 PM
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21. +1000!!!
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:58 PM
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26. "You and all the other bitchers and moaners on here"
Yes, when I see injustice, I do bitch and moan--and then I write letters, make calls, etc. to effect change.

That's because I'm not a toadying sycophant who bases his own worth on the (hopefully) unobtainable goal of a criticism-free echo chamber in which it is verboten to ever criticize a politician simply because of the color of his team jersey.

YMMV. :hi:
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:04 PM
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28. Damage done. You remain oblivious to it, and stubbornly in denial...
...of the very simple steps that could have been taken to avoid it. The problem should have been sorted out yesterday morning, not this afternoon, after it turned into a full-scale PR catastrophe for the White House, USDA and NAACP. Sorry you have such a difficult time grasping the concept. I tried to type slowly.

As I mentioned in our other discussion, my lack of patience is with those who stare, saucer-eyed, into the headlights of a car that's already run them over twice before.

Fine. Proactive solutions are clearly not your forte.

Guess it's a good thing you don't work for NASA.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:49 PM
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20. Wow.
Do you really not get that this Administration walked blindly into a trap? That it gave Fox and Breitbart the exact outcome they'd hoped for? That, regardless of what is said here in DU, that OUT THERE, both sides of the idiological aisle are howling that Vilsack sacrificed someone for political expediency, without cause and without checking first, that Obama let it happen, and that it blew up in their faces? That this, in and by itself, becomes the main story, eclipsing the shenanigans of one moldering turd known as Andrew Breitbart?

Unfiring her is NOT the issue. Please try to keep up.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:54 PM
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24. No, the situation is not nearly important enough for me to turn into that much of a drama queen.
I refuse to give credence to the idea that this should even be a national story. It has been blown out of proportion enough without me helping.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:09 PM
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29. And it happened without me helping.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 04:10 PM by Barrymores Ghost
It happened because a bunch of knee-jerkers in DC stepped on their own dicks. It is a national story for the simple fact that it is a national story...and because Vilsack and Jealos blew things out of proportion, and the President either gave the green light, or just sat around clutching at his pearls.

If you're so bored with it, you're free to divest yourself of this and any future thread related to the topic. For someone who doesn't want to turn into a drama queen, you seem unusually willing to don a crown and step into the limelight.

You have yourself a nice day, now.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:41 PM
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17. You'll not make any impression on this one, so don't waste your time.
Some are quite simply content to see the Obama Administration re-enact the myth of Sisyphus where it comes to responding to the Reich-Wing Scream Machine, rather than employ a little discretion and a lot of aikido.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x382542
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:45 PM
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19. Probably not, but I'll keep trying, anyway.
Great OP in your link, BTW. :thumbsup:

It mirrors the point I've been trying to make: You have to expect that FAUX & Co. are lying (or at very least distorting the truth to fit their agenda). The important thing is how you react to those lies.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:55 PM
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25. "Re-enact the myth of Sisyphys", I love the smell of pretentious people in the afternoon.
Such over the top drama.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:01 PM
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27. As opposed to the smell of anti-intellectualism?
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:12 PM
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30. Such an telling sense of insecurity...
...sorry if a simple analogy causes you such emotional distress.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:01 PM
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31. No emotional distress. Douche baggery makes me laugh, not cry.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:16 PM
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32. Well, at least you have that to take away from all of this.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 06:19 PM by Barrymores Ghost
If you think it makes me a douche bag to use a mythology reference to make a point, then I'll try not to let it hurt my feelings or make me lose sleep tonight. Tomorrow, I promise to use a bright red crayon and small words for you instead.

You know, I can't help but notice that, for someone who considers this entire conversation beneath him and the whole story a non-story, you oddly keep returning to it, rather like a sick dog crawling back to its own vomit.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:40 PM
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3. What is there to reconsider?
They know what they oughtta do. Just do it.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:41 PM
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4. GIBBS at WH Presser: "A lot of people acted without all the facts"
Gibbs said Sec Vilsack is trying to reach Sherrod to apologize and talk about next steps. "A lot of people acted without all the facts"

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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:43 PM
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5. Funny thing is that she's sitting in the CNN studio on camera watching all of this.
It'll be interesting to see her response when this is finished.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:49 PM
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7. Good, she deserves an incredible apology and it is the right thing to do.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:31 PM
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13. You're right on, Jefferson..we know
the President. They admit their mistakes and learn from them. Love reality!
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:34 PM
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14. Well I would hope so (nt)
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:35 PM
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16. How about an ironclad pledge to never knee-jerk to any rightwing allegation
without first fully investigating the charges?
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quantass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:50 PM
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22. LET'S HOPE this, yet again, Fox inspired == Obama Admin Knee-Jerk Reaction is...
the last for the administration and they can start to govern with their heads on their shoulders rather than being so far up the ass of Republicans, Lobbyists, and Fox News. Likely not going to happen but one can hope. Geez this administration can drive a progressive or any other rational thinker to drink. In the bigger picture, God help the U.S.A. to finally eliminate corporate lobbying from government.


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