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PlanetBev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:01 PM
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Can someone refute this Health Care talking point for me?
One of the women who I deal with for our company just told me that her assistant went in for knee surgery. Cathy (the vendor) told me that she advised her assistant to get it done now, as once "Obama's Health Care" kicks in, she'll be denied because she'll be too old. She repeated twice "Obama's Health Care", obviously to score points.

Another Fox News listener, no doubt. Anyone want to help with with a counter-argument?

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:03 PM
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1. I don't think you need us to tell her it is a lie.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:05 PM
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3. Ask her to clarify her statement....
Ask her what she means by that. Ask her why she feels as if she has to put everything in terms of right wing talking points.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:13 PM
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4. It's not even a talking point.
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 12:14 PM by Cant trust em
Ask her to tell you what provision in the reform law would prevent the surgery.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:26 PM
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5. It's attached to the "Death Panel" provision
Every Teabagger knows that. :crazy:
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:33 PM
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7. Don't even go into the doctor! They'll just take you out back and....nt
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:06 PM
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10. I have an elderly relative who is now terrified to go to the Dr. Her
Edited on Mon Jul-26-10 01:07 PM by alsame
sons literally have to go to her house and physically take her there. She believes that if anything is wrong with her, the death panels will have her killed.

She watches Fox all day, every day. It's sad and outrageous how they have terrorized seniors.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:27 PM
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12. That is really depressing. I'm sorry to hear that. nt
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:27 PM
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6. yes -- that is what I would suggest nt
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:41 PM
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8. If she doesn't ghave the internet how about you
printing it out for her. And then ask her why republicans are lying to her.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 12:54 PM
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9. She obviously swallowed the right wing talking point about rationing
so I'd just say it's not true. If the friend already has insurance, then nothing will be different for that friend.

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 01:24 PM
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11. The right-wing kept insisting that HCR was "government health care"
Explain to her that it most decidedly is not, that everything that isn't currently under the VA, Medicare, or Medicaid is still under the control of the right-wing's (and the DLC's) beloved private insurance companies.

Which is a different problem entirely.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 02:17 PM
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13. Here's the simple response...
"You're Lying. You either KNOW you're lying or you've been fed swill by Faux News and you were stupid enough to belive it. Either way, You're Lying."

I personally no longer give anyone the benefit of the doubt, if they spew lies, they're a liar. Period.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:00 PM
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14. Go to the White House website Health Insurance Reform Reality Check
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:07 PM
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15. Holy cow, I've never seen that site before
Thanks!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:13 PM
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17. Great Website. Thanks. n/t
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-26-10 04:11 PM
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16. I have a potential respone ...
Tell her that the GOP is making up those claims so that people will get very expensive treatment NOW, so that the insurance company will make more money ... money they won't make later.

Then, tell her the bill has ZERO age restrictions that you can find ... and ask that if she thinks there are such restrictions, where are those in the bill? If she is so sure this is true, clearly she can give you links to them.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-27-10 12:15 PM
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18. Tell that she will also be told to report to a processing center where she will be made into
green wafers to feed the rest of the population!
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