Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Recovery Act's Republican Fans

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:04 AM
Original message
The Recovery Act's Republican Fans
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_08/025110.php


THE RECOVERY ACT'S REPUBLICAN FANS.... Ask just about any Republican in Congress for their thoughts on last year's stimulus package, and you'll hear largely the same message -- the word "failure" would be thrown around quite a bit.

But ask Republican governors, and a different message emerges. Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) spoke to CNN's Candy Crowley yesterday about the state of the economy. McDonnell touted some recent gains in the commonwealth, prompting Crowley to ask if he'd give President Obama any credit for the progress. He replied:

"Well, I think there is plenty of credit to go around. We've got some good fundamentals in Virginia. We're at about 7 percent unemployment. But I think the stimulus probably helped a little bit. Our strong economic development initiatives have helped a lot. It was probably a team effort."


He added that he believes "in the short run some of the stimulus funding has helped us in some of the areas."

Obviously, I wouldn't characterize this as a glowing endorsement, but McDonnell's line is clearly distinct from the standard Republican talking points, which continue to insist, all evidence to the contrary notwithstanding, that the Recovery Act not only failed to make a difference, but actually made things worse. Virginia's governor seems to know better.

But also note how common this sentiment is among Republican governors. Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour (R) has offered some praise for Obama's recovery efforts, as have Vermont Gov. Jim Douglas (R) and Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, back when he was still a Republican. He seems reluctant to admit it out loud, but Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) seems to love the stimulus as much as anyone in the country, rivaling the support of California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R), who's offered unqualified praise for the stimulus.

Maybe Republicans on the Hill should have a chat with Republican governors? They're offering two very different messages on one of the biggest issues of the day.


—Steve Benen
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:13 AM
Response to Original message
1. Of course the Governors loved it. It saved them from making hard decisions.
Edited on Mon Aug-09-10 09:14 AM by dkf
Obama prevented them from having to put their political asses on the line. What's not to like about that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:16 AM
Response to Original message
2. isn't the "job-less recovery" crap getting to you yet?
When's the recovery going to hit regular people in a significant way? Like jobs. Actual un/underemployment is somewhere in the 18-20% range. The bailouts primarily assisted corporations, nice for them, how about some jobs now? or don't we have enough money for that because of invading and occupying foreign countries and devastating them? Seen "Rethink Afghanistan"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. I take it you are not one of the people who are grateful
their job was saved. There are lots of them out there, you know.

But you seem to be a chronic complainer. Do you have any immediate solutions that would actually work? Realistic ones?

I bet not.

:fistbump:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. Good reply !
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. single payer, jobs programs, infrastructure repair. stop using contractors. stop invading
and occupying other countries. support unionized teachers. for a few. your premature celebratory snotty-ness is noted, not unexpected. Desperation huh?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. crickets....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:24 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. First, there have been jobs created and saved. Millions. The economy IS expanding but slowly. Much
more needs to be done, but we aren't going to get out of an 8 million job loss overnight. While not as bad the Great Depression, that took 12 years and a world war before it was over. Please see the whole picture. What about job loss in the UK, Canada, elsewhere in Europe, parts of Asia, etc. This is global.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. again, isn't the "job-less recovery" crap wearing thin?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. No, because it doesn't historically differ from any other recovery.
Jobs are the last thing to pick up and its a fickle time during that transition.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Obama could have started with a real jobs program which would
have positively impacted peoples' economic stability. But, he chose to bolster corporations.

So sad. Such momentum lost.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #9
10. So instead of refuting my point, you just spit out vague policy ideas & bland talking points.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-09-10 04:31 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Awwh...that all you've got? do you recall that FDR started out with a robust jobs program which
was very successful?

Looks like you're picking a fight. I don't do your kind of baiting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #11
12. FDR's jobs program is irrelevant to the fact that in EVERY recovery...
...jobs are the last thing to pick up. This recovery looks very much like all the others so far, in historical comparison. Stop trying to avoid that point. Just admit it and move on. It will be a lot less painful for you that way.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-10-10 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. please review your Am history as to when, in FDR's term he got the jobs
bill done and moving.

(when you have to be snide it means you have poor arguments)

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 03:30 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC