Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

"Barack Obama......The Unnecessary Fall"..John Judis (New Republic and Carnegie Endowment for Peace)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:23 PM
Original message
"Barack Obama......The Unnecessary Fall"..John Judis (New Republic and Carnegie Endowment for Peace)
Edited on Wed Aug-18-10 05:24 PM by KoKo
The Unnecessary Fall
A counter-history of the Obama presidency.

John B. Judis
Senior Editor

* August 12, 2010 | 12:00 am


His advisers have clearly reinforced these inclinations. In the campaign, they fashioned him as the outsider candidate of “hope” and “change” and have extended this strategy into the presidency itself. They see him as standing above party. In a meeting with congressional leaders last April, senior adviser David Axelrod rejected the complaint that Obama accorded equal blame to Democrats and Republicans with his descriptions of the “cynical politics in Washington.” Within the White House, top aides still speak of promoting the Obama “brand.” Organizing for America, the administration’s campaign organization, which is supposed to be focusing on the 2010 elections, recently devoted its resources to organizing parties across the country to celebrate Obama’s forty-ninth birthday.

These efforts to elevate Obama above the hurly-burly of Washington politics have been disastrous. Obama’s image as an iconic outsider has become the screen on which Fox News, the Tea Party, radicalright bloggers, and assorted politicians have projected the image of him as a foreigner, an Islamic radical, and a socialist. He has remained “the other” that he aspired to be during the campaign, but he and his advisers no longer control how that otherness is defined.

The White House and cabinet officials he appointed have reinforced his aversion to populism. As Jonathan Alter recounts in The Promise: President Obama, Year One, Geithner and Summers repeatedly blocked attempts to get tough on Wall Street on the grounds that doing so would threaten the recovery itself by upsetting the bankers. For most of his first year, Alter writes, “Obama bought the Geithner-Summers argument that the banks were fragile and couldn’t be confronted while they remained in peril.” Its reluctance to come down on the bankers crippled the administration politically, making it far more difficult for it to get its way with Congress on a second stimulus program that would have boosted the recovery and Democrats’ political prospects. Bad politics can trump good policy.

Populism has profound shortcomings as a worldview. It tends toward demagoguery. In its relentless focus on the middle class, it can ignore or stigmatize those below it. It can prove hostile to a long-range scientific outlook. A more populist Obama, for instance, might have postponed the battle for climate change legislation or national health insurance and probably would have taken a weaker stand on immigration. But populism has been an indelible part of the American political psyche, and those who are uncomfortable making populist appeals, like Hoover or Carter–or, more recently, presidential candidate John Kerry–suffer the consequences at the polls.

If Obama’s politics leads to a Republican takeover of one or both houses of Congress, and even to a Republican president in 2012, then much of what Obama has accomplished could be undone. It’s unlikely that a new Republican president and Congress would actually repeal the health care or the financial reform bill. But the former could be starved of public funds and deprived of regulatory oversight; and the latter could be neutered by a hostile treasury secretary and by weak or hostile presidential appointees to the Securities and Exchange Commission or the new Consumer Financial Protection Agency. Reform legislation needs administrations and congresses committed to reform. That is where politics has to come in; and that’s where the Obama administration, with its aversion to populism, has fallen short.

John B. Judis is a senior editor of The New Republic and a visiting scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Much More of this Read at:
http://www.tnr.com/article/politics/magazine/76972/obama-failure-polls-populism-recession-health-care?page=0,3&passthru=MzM1ZDQ4YmRkZTM1NDBhZDJlNDNiYjg4OTM3OTRhNTk
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
1. 18 months of the most accomplished president in decades, and it's
"Unnecessary Fall"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. hey this fellow's got an endowment
he must be trusted
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. I always say "Trust but Verify" and that applies to Judis...but he has a following
and what he says rings with the "Powers that Be" so it's a cautionary to Obama.

And, much as I disagreed with some of what he said...the overall tone was cautionary and just trying to get Obama back on the TRACK...which he's veered off of. Obama Ran as a "MAN OF THE PEOPLE!" What Judis points out is that he is vulnerable from ATTACKS ON THE RIGHT by BECK/LIMBAUGH and others ...BECAUSE he can't do a POPULIST SPEACH! CLINTON WAS GOOD A POPULISM...and JUDIS is just trying to get him "BACK ON TRACK" so he will appeal to the MIDDLE OF AMERICANS..the INDEPENDENTS..that DU'ers en masse tell us is where the VOTES ARE.

It's a GOOD ARTICLE and a GREAT READ if you are a "DLC'er." FOR US ON THE LEFT ...(the folks that Gibbs TRASHED) then Judis article from "New Republic" is just more DLC SHIT going after OBAMA just the way they went after CLINTON AND CARTER BEFORE HIM.

Some of you THINK that the "LEFTIES" that GIBBS TRASHED...TRASHED...under the guise of his "PRESIDENT" who TOLD HIM TO DO IT ...are working AGAINST the DEM Party!

WAKE UP...WE ARE POPULISTS WORKING FOR THE AVERAGE AMERICAN! GET IT...BELIEVE IT...But, we also care about those who "haven't made it" and are suffering and hurting and John Judis seems to be with Obama that it's ONLY ABOUT THE MIDDLE that Politics serves and not those who never had a "help" to even the FIRST RUNG up that LADDER.

Judis Article is Flawed but so is Obama/DLC.... Most of AMERICA is in the BOTTOM TIER these DAYS...

We need to read this but to ACT ON OUR OWN FOR CHANGE!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. There's nothing "cautionary" about the headline and definitely not about that terrible image
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #7
12. You never read a WORD that I posted....and that says more about you than the Post.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Politics is perception.
Poli-Sci 101.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #3
5. Maybe, but i never ever saw this kind of obituary after 18 months
and with an image to boot.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:22 PM
Response to Reply #1
9. It's about the way the VOTING PUBLIC...sees this. If they aren't feeling better under Obama
they will throw him out. I've seen this since Jimmy Carter. It's not about the REALITY of OBAMA...but HOW AMERICAN VOTING REPUBLIC SEES HIM...

SADLY...it comes down to that...and that we don't have a FAIR MEDIA that give VIEW to ALL SIDES...And...OBAMA HAD DONE NOTHING TO CHANGE THAT!

If you find some where that Obama had CHARGED HIS FCC to go after FOX NEWS in ANTI-TRUST LEGISLATION...then Please POST TO INFORM ME!

I voted for OBAMA because I thought DEMOCRATS would Re-Organize the FCC so that we would have FAIR AND BALANCED REPORTING over THE PEOPLE'S AIRWAVES in the future..

But...Alas...Obama's GUY ON THE FCC is a "PUSH OVER" who doesn't give a SHIT ABOUT FOX except the MONEY that MURDOCH can put in his Pocket!

REFUTE ME on this POST...IF I AM WRONG! I want to HOPE that I AM WRONG about OBAMA's FCC! He didn't re-organize it ...he stacked it with Media Folks who wanted what they are getting. IMHO..

PUSH ME BACK...TELL ME WHERE OBAMA WAS GOOD ON THIS?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 05:45 PM
Response to Original message
4. This entire article is speculation and people are still
trying to rewrite history when it comes to Reagan.

<...>

Politicians, such as Franklin Roosevelt or Ronald Reagan, who found a way of using populism’s appeal during downturns have enjoyed success, while those who have spurned it have suffered accordingly...

<...>

If Obama’s politics leads to a Republican takeover of one or both houses of Congress, and even to a Republican president in 2012, then much of what Obama has accomplished could be undone. It’s unlikely that a new Republican president and Congress would actually repeal the health care or the financial reform bill. But the former could be starved of public funds and deprived of regulatory oversight; and the latter could be neutered by a hostile treasury secretary and by weak or hostile presidential appointees to the Securities and Exchange Commission or the new Consumer Financial Protection Agency. Reform legislation needs administrations and congresses committed to reform. That is where politics has to come in; and that’s where the Obama administration, with its aversion to populism, has fallen short.

<...>

Retiring Democratic Senator Byron Dorgan told me, “Most Americans were reading about the massive compensations and bailouts, and the administration largely hired people from the culture of Wall Street.”


The historical trend would suggest a takeover, but this year might be different. Reagan lost seats in both mid-terms.



As for Dorgan's comment, Congress had a role to play in conintuing TARP, which most people seem to forget. Some Senators who voted for or against the original TARP changed their vote on the bill to end it:

<...>

Sen. Mary Landrieu, a Louisiana Democrat, voted against the original TARP legislation in October while locked in a tight reelection race. With the election behind her and the next contest not for another six years, Landrieu voted with Obama to release the funds. Landrieu's vote sends a signal that she is likely to vote with Obama often during the first year of his administration, a helpful sign for the incoming president, who needs every Democratic vote from a red state that he can get. Democrat Bill Nelson of Florida also opposed the original TARP plan but voted with Obama this time around.

Obama also won six Republican votes: Sens. Lamar Alexander (TN), Jon Kyl (AZ.), Judd Gregg (NH), Richard Lugar (IN), Olympia Snowe (ME) and George Voinovich (OH).

Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont voted to block the bailout funds, as did seven Democrats: Jeanne Shaheen (NH), Ron Wyden (OR), Ben Nelson (NE), Blanche Lincoln (Ark.), Russ Feingold (D-WI), Maria Cantwell (WA) and Evan Bayh (IN).

In what will likely be their final Senate votes, Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton both voted against the resolution and with the president. In his first Senate vote, Roland Burris voted with his leadership, Harry Reid and Dick Durbin, who had just last week been blocking him from taking his seat. Burris, Reid and Durbin chatted amiably on the floor and Durbin even polished Burris' senatorial pin for him.

Dorgan voted to continue it. How many people are cheering Lincoln and Nelson for voting against continuing TARP?

Also, Obama is not Carter. Spin doesn't make it so. The Presidential election is two and a half years away.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:25 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. Okay...then REFUTE my POST #9 on this about the FCC!
and tell me where you think we need to go?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:08 PM
Response to Original message
8. Thanks for yet another uplifting contribution.
You know the scumbaggy, troglodyte-ish Repugs are lurking about right over there, right?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-18-10 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #8
11. Your Presentation is VERy Impressive...but tell me how it translates into VOTES to keep Obama Agenda
Going? How does it? Pretty words and Speeches seem to counteract the Guy who Ran for President against the PRESIDENT...WHO IS NOW is PRESIDENT!

Point out where I'm off base, here?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 25th 2024, 06:03 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC