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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:31 PM
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CBO Steps All Over boner's Message
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_08/025361.php

CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE STEPS ALL OVER BOEHNER'S MESSAGE.... In his exceedingly silly speech on the economy today, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) proudly proclaimed, "All this 'stimulus' spending has gotten us nowhere."

And almost immediately thereafter, the CBO made Boehner look pretty foolish.

The oft-criticized stimulus plan boosted the economy in the second quarter by as much as 4.5%, the Congressional Budget Office said on Tuesday.

In a report published the same day as Minority Leader John Boehner's criticism of President Obama's economic policy, the CBO said the stimulus law boosted the economy by between 1.7% and 4.5%, lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.8 percentage points and increased the number of people employed by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million.


This seems pretty significant, so let's look at it from a few different angles.

First, as a real-world matter, economic growth was pretty slow in the second quarter (April to June), but the CBO report makes clear that without the stimulus, it wouldn't have grown at all. In other words, a stimulus helped lead to tepid growth -- the absence of a stimulus would have been significant economic contraction.

Second, this CBO data, like reports from the Council of Economic Advisors and the Office of Management and Budget, should effectively end the debate about whether the Recovery Act did what it set out to do. The stimulus effort was too small -- criticism from conservative Republicans is completely backwards -- but as designed, it was intended to give the economy a significant boost, and save and create millions of jobs. It did exactly that. Anyone who argues otherwise is either not paying attention or is being willfully dishonest.

Third, the White House would be smart to trumpet the CBO report pretty loudly, especially today, but the same political dynamic that's existed for months continues to be a problem -- the stimulus prevented a catastrophe, and Republicans were spectacularly wrong at the moment of crisis, but the economy is still hurting badly. Saying "it would have been much worse" is entirely accurate. It's also entirely unpersuasive in a country burdened by fear and high unemployment.

And finally, by way of a reminder as to how truly nonsensical our politics can be, also note that the economy could use another boost to prevent it from slipping even further backwards. The CBO makes abundantly clear that the stimulus worked in generating growth and creating jobs. So, does that mean we'll get another stimulus to generate more growth and create more jobs? Of course not -- Republicans choose not to believe the data, want less of what worked, and won't allow a vote on the most effective elements of the policy. Voters say they want less spending -- even though more spending would improve the economy -- and congressional Democrats are unlikely to even try to push for more recovery efforts, fearing a public backlash against sound policies that work.

The stimuls worked, and we need more. The country is convinced it failed, and demands less.

We know what the economy needs; we know how to make it happen; and our politics just won't let us get from here to there.


—Steve Benen
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:37 PM
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1. Ah, but the great unwashed masses will only hear what Boehner said, and not a word from the CBO. nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 05:37 PM
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2. Sadly, you're probably right there. nt
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 07:37 PM
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3. Yeah, if only we had a free and independent press in America
Wouldn't that be something...
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 10:31 PM
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4. OTOH
Boehner probably won't be a "household name" among most people either. Anybody outside of Ohio probably won't know/care about him. He is certainly not as flamboyant as Newt Gingrich was and even then, I'm not sure most people knew (or cared) who HE was at the time. In fact, I'm not sure that anybody with only a cursory knowledge of anything related to politics or world events could name most of the current members of Congress (if they would even know their own Reps and Senators).
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 11:01 PM
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5. as one of the gopers front runners...he sucked today..KO killed him
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-24-10 11:07 PM
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6. Oh I bet he did (I would've loved to have seen it)
He'll probably go over like a wet fart with most of the American public if and when they ever REALLY get to know him like we here all do.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 02:21 AM
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7. If that is the best them GOPers can muster....they are f......where do they find these dudes?
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 09:20 AM
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8. I don't know how the corporate mediawhores
keep claiming that the yahoos are going to be in charge of Congress next year.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 02:27 PM
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9. The GOPers drove the BUS into a ditch and now they want the keys again??
what GALL....

Are they still drunk
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 08:03 PM
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10. No, but they're still in the nut house- and refusing treatment
BTW Obama came up with a GREAT line to use against the GOP! :thumbsup:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 10:13 PM
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11. ???? do tell
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-25-10 11:13 PM
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12. Oh I was referring to the "ditch/car keys" comment
that you referenced. That was Obama who came up with that line, wasn't it?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 01:11 AM
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13. yup...I believe so.... :o)
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 06:10 AM
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14. Why isn't every Dem repeating this message over and over?
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 06:45 AM
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15. Because, like da Bears, their defense is always on the field.
Please no Obama=Cutler comments.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-26-10 06:51 AM
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16. To those who say Obama did nothing for jobs...
This was the FIRST thing he did because who knew the votes never be there moving forward!

Thank you President Obama!!!
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