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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:16 PM
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Actual Count: 87,000 attended Beck's "Whitestock" rally today. (CBS)
Edited on Sat Aug-28-10 06:17 PM by jefferson_dem
Hell, that's only 913,000 short of Michele Bachmann's "million mythology."

Glenn Beck Rally Attracts Estimated 87,000
Posted by Alex Sundby 1 comments

An estimated 87,000 people attended a rally organized by talk-radio host and Fox News commentator Glenn Beck Saturday in Washington, according to a crowd estimate commissioned by CBS News.

The company AirPhotosLive.com based the attendance on aerial pictures it took over the rally, which stretched from in front of the Lincoln Memorial along the Reflecting Pool to the Washington Monument. Beck and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin spoke at the rally.

Beck, who predicted that at least 100,000 people would show up, opened his comments with a joke: "I have just gotten word from the media that there is over 1,000 people here today."

AirPhotosLive.com gave its estimate a margin of error of 9,000, meaning between 78,000 and 96,000 people attended the rally. The photos used to make the estimate were taken at noon Saturday, which is when the company estimated was the rally's high point.

Rally organizers had a permit for crowd of 300,000. Crowd estimates used to be provided by the National Park Service, but the agency stopped counting crowds in 1997 after being accused of underestimating the size of the Million Man March in 1995.


The area around the Lincoln Memorial in Washington during a rally organized by conservative commentator Glenn Beck is seen in this aerial picture taken Aug. 28, 2010.
(Credit: AirPhotosLIVE.com)


The area around the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool in Washington during a rally organized by conservative commentator Glenn Beck is seen in this aerial picture taken Aug. 28, 2010.
(Credit: AirPhotosLIVE.com)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20014993-503544.html


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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:18 PM
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1. Lots of green space between the people
It looks sparse in these shots. What a bust.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:19 PM
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4. Yeah, I noticed that too...
It doesn't seem to be densely packed like, say, Obama's inaugeration was.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:23 PM
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9. Must be afraid of getting "cooties" from their neighboring
teabagger :-). Or else they were told to spread out and make it look like there were more people.
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:43 PM
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14. Maneuvering room for their Hoverounds...
...which were paid for by Medicare, of course.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:25 PM
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20. LOLOLOLOLOLOL Excellent!!
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:26 PM
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21. that is sooo wrong.
get it right, it's rascal scooters :D
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 08:33 PM
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33. HaHa.... Did you see Wonkette?
America’s Special People Arriving For GlennBeckPalooza



Oh, ye Armies of the Night! Rise up … or, hell, just remain seated. Remain seated, ye lardbottoms, and also stick to daylight hours, so you don’t run into each other, on those ridiculous scooters paid for by Socialist Medicare. Wonkette’s photographic war correspondent Dana Ryan is already just cold shooting pictures of the most historical/miraculous event ever, which starts tomorrow we think?

<SNIP>

This was a movie about puppets who go to Hollywood to become stars. As they travel, they frequently consult the script of the movie in order to know what to do next. When they reach Hollywood, they begin making a movie about the movie the viewer has just been watching. The puppets build plywood simulacra of props that, earlier in the film, were represented as real. Then the roof of the soundstage smashes in and a powerful rainbow shines down and obliterates everything, including a plywood imitation of the fake rainbow that had appeared in the first scene. The frog and bear and pig simulations panic as the fake/real and real/fake worlds nearly destroy each other. The puppets then look directly into the camera and instruct the viewer that “life’s like a movie: write your own ending.”



Are we reliving the counter-culture classic Easy Rider right now, as freedumb’s just another word for nothing left to lose? All they wanted, was to be free. And that’s the way, it turned out to be.

http://wonkette.com/417780/americas-special-people-arriving-for-glennbeckpalooza#more-417780#ixzz0xxEUPlb5
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:23 PM
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36. Don't think we have to make fun of the old, disabled or overweight
in order to disagree with Glenn Beck or the Tea Party. How sad.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:27 PM
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37. Aw.... but nobody's doing that.
We're only making fun of Teabaggers...who happen to be in Medicare-provided scooters. Get a grip.
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:34 PM
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38. Good...
But, the scooters say "Rent Me" on the front.....wouldn't that be a park rental, not Medicare?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:38 PM
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39. Aye...
You're right. Guess their Medicare-provided scooters didn't make the trip.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:24 PM
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19. They all needed space to spread out their blankets and lawn chairs..
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 09:37 AM
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43. My local paper used a condensed revised version of the Washington Post article
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 09:38 AM by LiberalFighter
Beck urges return to traditional values

Beck’s rally was billed as a peaceful and non-political “re-dedication” of the traditional honor and values of the nation. Throngs of people crowded shoulder to shoulder for six city blocks, from the Lincoln Memorial past the reflecting pool to the World War II Memorial.


Nothing about "shoulder to shoulder", "six city blocks", "reflecting pool", or "World War II Memorial" in the WP article on their site.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:19 PM
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2. Not bad, although with Fux News promoting the hell out of this you'd think it would be higher.
When did Beck announce this? End of June, right?
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:19 PM
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3. Green never looked so beautiful.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:20 PM
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5. On these shots, you can really see how spread out they are
Maybe they were going by the red state strategy of counting land mass and not density.

You couldn't walk through the crowds this easily at Obama's inauguration.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:22 PM
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6. Of COURSE Beck and the other RWers are already lying. Later, Beck announced that the "media"
said there were 300,000-500,000 people there, and "If the MEDIA says that's how many people are here, we can only imagine how many are REALLY here." I bet the "media" he was talking about was Faux. :eyes:
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:22 PM
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7. and you have to figure that there are
people there who were "in Washington, DC" and wandered over to see what the fuss was all about? I mean, how many people - apprx - are "on the mall" at this time of year anyway?
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LonePirate Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:23 PM
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8. The reflecting pool needs to be drained and cleaned!
It looks to be almost as toxic as the people and vitriol around it.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:28 PM
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10. "Whitestock". Best laugh I've had today! nt
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:39 PM
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12. I noticed one large well-dressed black man near the stage.
But he was probably a DC Plainclothes policeman.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:37 PM
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11. Not bad.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:39 PM
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13. Not bad...
but not many more than will see the Redskins play at RFK on any given sunday.

Hey, hate is a motivator.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 06:44 PM
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15. I had no idea
The Koch Brothers employed so many people...
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Mr. Sparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:08 PM
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16. For someone who averages 2 million on cable, thats kinda sucks.
It also does not include his radio audience.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:09 PM
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17. Attn teabagers who went to Beck's "Whitestock" Rally pix
Now here is a crowd.



WhiteStock :rofl: Go Jefferson_dem
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:44 PM
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26. Wow. That puts it in perspective!
Packed all the way to the Washington monument. At whitestock it is quite sparse near the Washington monument from the aerial shots provided in theOP.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 08:36 PM
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34. Impressive contrast. And even moreso... here are some pix from the concert before the inauguration.
Edited on Sat Aug-28-10 08:37 PM by jefferson_dem
..<I was there>... :) ... Which took place at the same spot as today's Whitestock.

Note how the images were taken from way on the other side of the WWII memorial, which is where the Whitestock crowd thins out.



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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:23 PM
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18. Thanks for this post...
Let's just wait and see what number the Beckerheads and RWingnuts pull out of their butts.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:41 PM
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25. Michele Bachmann ...... 1,000,000 people
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GoCubsGo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:47 PM
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27. She's not exactly the sharpest tool in the toolbox
No big surprise that she can't count.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:26 PM
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22. The LGBT National March on Washington had 200,000
Obviously America's a right-wing nation :eyes:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:28 PM
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24. Women's Rights March in 2004 had 1.2 million.....
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 08:05 PM
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29. funny that the media never mentions that one when they talk about large marches.
women's rights, of course, do not count, just like women don't
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 08:20 PM
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31. Very ture. We were looking for the news copters....not one was ever seen
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:27 AM
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50. Yes. I was there. The media pretty much ignored it.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:27 PM
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23. DailyKos post by an African American who went to the "rally"....
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nmbluesky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 08:01 PM
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28. Michagain stadium
111,000
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 08:22 PM
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32. They sure do love their football out there, dont they? LOL
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 10:48 PM
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40. Been to Michigan Stadium. Quietest 111,000 I've ever heard.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 08:13 PM
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30. That's still alot of nuts.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:13 PM
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35. I'm surprised the universe didn't cave in on itself with such concentrations of dumb in one place.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 12:12 PM
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52. lol...
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 12:13 PM by BrklynLiberal
Maybe that is how black holes are created....

All About Black Holes

The anomalous black holes are concentrated areas of mass so immense, that the mammoth force of gravity denies anything within a certain area around it from passing. This area is called the event horizon of a black hole.

We have given black holes their name because light inside the event horizon can never be seen by mankind, or any outside observer. We believe that black holes in space are created by the collapse of a red super giant star. As these stars reach the end of their lives, an imbalance of inward and outward pressure forces the star to collapse.

Information on black holes is limited, though numerous schools of theory exist. We know black holes exist not because we can see them, but because of the impact they have on the space around them.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 01:49 PM
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53. I don't know about black holes, but Beck rallies seem to have a black void
Edited on Mon Aug-30-10 02:19 PM by Fearless
A place where black people mysteriously fail to congregate. Go figure! :rofl:


Edit: Very embarrassing spelling error.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:17 PM
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54. ...
:thumbsup:
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:29 PM
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55. Very good one! A void of blackness. Void of Muslims and
Hispanic's, too, if I noticed correctly, not one scared Muslim woman.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 02:32 PM
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56. Well they do have one...







Although I'm not entirely sure what race, ethnicity, or nationality he's trying to fall into. Perhaps Argentinian?
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 03:24 PM
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57. He's a member of the ORANGE race... not that there's anything wrong with
that.... we welcome all races here in the USA... but this particular specimen is not really part of the human race.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 06:36 PM
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59. Definitely not human, but if he behaves we'll get along.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 11:15 PM
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41. Feh. That's all they could get? The anti-war rallies on the mall had more.
Obama pulled crowds twice that on a bad day.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 07:28 AM
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42. The "I Have a Dream" crowd (250k) versus the "I Have to Scream" crowd (87k) in pictures.
Edited on Sun Aug-29-10 07:29 AM by jefferson_dem
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donal dubh Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 10:13 AM
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44. I doubt even the 87 thousand claim...
perhaps that many people were there, but many of them were simply there for the freak show. And many were there videoing the event for posterity and likely more than a few were hoping for some drama. All in all? just another sideshow. They will lose in Nov. They will turn on their own. Much like the fiscal vs. social conservaties have done before. Now, if there were some way to energize the left to lay a serious beating on these clowns this fall, maybe they could get Palin to agree to shut up if her political value seems to lead to negative results...?
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 10:20 AM
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45. Is that the majority of White people left in America? n/t
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 12:13 PM
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46. There was a +- 9,000 in the estimate
Event organizers, who had a permit for 300,000 people, estimated there were 500,000 in the "enormous and impassioned" crowd, according to the New York Times.

CBS put the figure much lower, based on an analysis of crowd photos done by the firm AirPhotosLive.com. The company examined photos taken around noon, at the peak of the event, and determined that between 78,000 and 96,000 people were in attendance.

Rally attendees filled six blocks, according to CNN, which compared the task of counting the crowd to guessing “how many jelly beans are inside a huge jar.”

ABC reported "more than 100,000" people in the crowd, while NBC Nightly News said "tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands" had traveled far and wide to be part of the event.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/08/29/2010-08-29_crowd_estimates_at_glenn_becks_restore_america_rally_depend_dramatically_on_who_.html#ixzz0y13QmEWw

I go with the CBS since it seems the most scientifically accurate.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 06:46 AM
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47. A Good Number of Them Are Probably Tourists Who Were Curious
I'd like to see aerial photos of the mall when there's not an event.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:28 AM
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51. Good point. n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 06:55 AM
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48. Someone needs to tell morning schmo; he keeps repeating 500,000
as an accurate number. :eyes:
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 04:51 PM
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58. The dingbats at NBC & MSNBC said 300,000
some park official told them. Who? Joe Schmo national park ranger? Cause as many have pointed out the park service doesn't estimate crowd sizes.

I stick to the scientific survey CBS had done with overhead photos & a grid overlay.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:21 AM
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49. Maybe there were 4 brazillion people there.
Most likely trapped as tourists and being sent to jail for not being citizens.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 08:17 PM
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60. I question that number...nt
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