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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:21 PM
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Movements Are About Something Real
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_08/025426.php

MOVEMENTS ARE ABOUT SOMETHING REAL…. I tried to keep up on today's festivities at the Lincoln Memorial, but as the dust settles, I find myself confused.

For a year and a half, we've seen rallies and town-hall shouting and attack ads and Fox News special reports. But I still haven't the foggiest idea what these folks actually want, other than to see like-minded Republicans winning elections. To be sure, I admire their passion, and I applaud their willingness to get involved in public affairs. If more Americans chose to take a more active role in the political process, the country would be better off and our democracy would be more vibrant.

But that doesn't actually tell us what these throngs of Americans are fighting for, exactly. I'm not oblivious to their cries; I'm at a loss to appreciate those cries on anything more than a superficial level.

This is about "freedom."


Well, I'm certainly pro-freedom, and as far as I can tell, the anti-freedom crowd struggles to win votes on Election Day. But can they be a little more specific? How about the freedom for same-sex couples to get married? No, we're told, not that kind of freedom.

This is about a fight for American "liberties."


That sounds great, too. Who's against American "liberties"? But I'm still looking for some details. Might this include law-abiding American Muslims exercising their liberties and converting a closed-down clothing store into a community center? No, we're told, not those kinds of liberties.

This is about giving Americans who work hard and play by the rules more opportunities.


I'm all for that, too. But would these opportunities include the chance for hard-working Americans to bring their kids to the doctor if they get sick, even if the family can't afford insurance? No, we're told, not those kinds of opportunities.

This is about the values of the Founding Fathers.


I'm a big fan of the framers' generation, who created an extraordinary nation. But if we're honoring their values, would this include their steadfast commitment to the separation of church and state? No, we're told, not those values.

This is about patriotic Americans willing to make sacrifices for the good of their country.


That sounds reasonable; sacrifices can be honorable. But if we're talking about patriots willing to sacrifice, does that mean millionaires and billionaires can go back to paying '90s-era tax rates (you know, when the economy was strong)? No, we're told, not those kinds of sacrifices.

This is about a public that, at long last, wants to hear the truth from those who speak in their name.


What a great idea. Maybe that means we can hear the truth about global warming? About the fact that health care reform wasn't a socialized government takeover? About Social Security not going bankrupt? About how every court ruling conservatives don't like doesn't necessarily constitute "liberal judicial activism"? No, we're told, not those truths.

Movements -- real movements that make a difference and stand the test of time -- are about more than buzz words, television personalities, and self-aggrandizement. Change -- transformational change that sets nations on new courses -- is more than vague, shallow promises about "freedom."

Labor unions created a movement. Women's suffrage was a movement. The fight for civil rights is a movement. The ongoing struggle for equality for gays and lesbians is a movement. In each case, the grievance was as clear as the solution. There was no mystery as to what these patriots were fighting for. Their struggles and successes made the nation stronger, better, and more perfect.

The folks who gathered in D.C. today were awfully excited about something. The fact that it's not altogether obvious what that might be probably isn't a good sign.


—Steve Benen
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:27 PM
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1. Excellent!!!!!!
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:29 PM
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2. What was our movement about? Did we get what we wanted?
I feel bad for Obama. He tried to do everything the smart way but it's too slow to take effect and he doesn't do a very good job of telling us about it. The unrealized promise of the stimulus in energy and technology is going to take time to come to fruition but we will see benefits. I'm not sure the public has any patience though.

Glen Beck has no goal other than self aggrandizement. To search for any meaning in his orgy of self love is futile.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:30 PM
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3. that's been my point from the very start
chameleon politics of absurdity to be sure...
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:36 PM
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4. This is about "racism." And it's real. n/t
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:37 PM
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5. They wanna tear down all those other movements you mentioned.
If you caught them when they thought only their buddies were listening, you'd probably also hear them admit they "want that nigger out of the whitehouse."

:shrug:
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:46 PM
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6. this essay is excellent...
some notes I took while watching...
God
... restore not transform
...we pledge to each other our fortunes... (he really said that)
God
Jesus Christ our Lord and savior
freedom
God
blood in the womb...
Jesus
we fill the spirit of MLK
God
Jesus
charity
Jesus
God
Jesus
pray on your knees... in public
God
Uncle Martin
Unity
600 million $
Jesus
tithe to your church
america is the freedom to work and not expect anything in return
the Lord Jesus Christ
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 08:57 PM
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8. Did he really say "Uncle Martin"?!?!?!?!?!
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:47 PM
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10. MLK's niece said it lots
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:47 PM
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7. This paragraph rocks!
"Movements -- real movements that make a difference and stand the test of time -- are about more than buzz words, television personalities, and self-aggrandizement. Change -- transformational change that sets nations on new courses -- is more than vague, shallow promises about "freedom.""

The 1963 MLK rally came after years of real action by a truly grassroots movement fighting very real injustices.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:46 PM
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9. HCR left the true reformers standing outside the gates while the big...
Edited on Sat Aug-28-10 10:16 PM by slipslidingaway
money had seats at the table, this under a Democratic WH and Congress.

"About the fact that health care reform wasn't a socialized government takeover?"

Far from it, but this line is used time again to distract from the real diversion that took place. It was an insurance bailout as the boomers move to Medicare and will no longer being paying for private insurance.

Watch what is done, instead of listening to the pretty words.

And Simpson was a great pick if you wanted to give voice to the delusionsal on how to reduce the deficit including entitlement spending, SS and Medicare.

Obama: Billy (campaign ad)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCRO0g9CfAw

We'll have Medicare negotiate drug prices with the pharma's, read the Obama HC plan, or we'll invite him to the WH and make a deal :(




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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:50 PM
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11. You never disappoint! If Dems suck so bad,
why do you bother?

I never notice you chastising the rethugs, or baggers, or anyone else, which interestingly enough, is what this OP is about.

Good job, true to form.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 10:02 PM
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12. The rethugs and baggers goes without saying, we need to keep our
own house in order, just going along with the party line does not help the people of our country.

I edited my OP to include the ad by Obama about Billy Tauzin. Obama's HC plan included the negotiation of drug prices for Medicare, then Obama invites Billy to the WH, cuts a deal and appoints Simpson to the deficit commission to look at the deficit and entitlement spending.

Remember when Obama talked about these deals and said "this is not who I am!"

I do, did you forget.



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 10:05 PM
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13. Start your own thread then. This is about rethugs, baggers,
and their break from reality today, not about your chastising this admin yet again. I 'get' that from you.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 10:11 PM
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15. So it is just another diversion to entertain the masses - OK n/t
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 10:10 PM
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14. If you want to continue with the diversion of Repubs vs Dems, all
wrong vs right then be my guest, IMHO that does not help the majority of people, it is a nice diversion though. I know several family that crossed party lines of voted for Dems because they were sick of Bush and wanted to see him held accountable, and then they were told to look forward.

:puke:

:think:









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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:36 PM
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16. Great point!
Mostly the Tea Partiers/Beck followers are united in their irrational hatred of President Obama. Their criticisms, the criticisms they voice are not even valid criticisms, or even real. At least have something real to be riled up about. There is plenty to be riled up about but it shouldn't include Obama's middle name, taking your guns away, imaginary spending by the Democrats or the President's birth certificate.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-30-10 07:38 AM
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17. Perfect!
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