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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 02:20 PM
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PPP: Voters are more angry at Obama than rethugs
I guess it wouldn't have to do with his race what BULLSHIT!!! http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/09/angry-voters.html
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 02:24 PM
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1. "The voters who hate everything and everyone are a key part of the electorate this year"
Edited on Fri Oct-01-10 02:25 PM by Pirate Smile
I swear I've seen everyone of those guys posting on the Internet. :)
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Kdillard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 02:41 PM
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2. I have no words.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 02:55 PM
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3. More than a few democrats are upset at the President
Edited on Fri Oct-01-10 02:57 PM by FBaggins
Do you really think it's because of the color of his skin?

Quite a few people are out of work and angry at anyone in power. Their anger may be misdirected (IOW, they're blaming the wrong guy), but it isn't because he has a deep tan.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 02:57 PM
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4. With DEMS
it's not because of his race, at least I would hope not.
With repukes, I am sure there are many who have issues with his race.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 02:59 PM
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5. That's no doubt true to some extent.
But the people who have trouble with his race almost certainly voted against him. Any increased anger almost certainly comes from people who at one point supported him.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:01 PM
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12. Then why do every single poll of dems even PPP's own show Obama with overwhelming
support among Dems? It's not Dems who have turned against him, according to polls, but Independents.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:30 PM
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14. You have confused "Dems" with "people who voted for Obama"
Edited on Fri Oct-01-10 04:32 PM by FBaggins
The two sets obviously overlap a great deal... But they aren't the same thing.

You also ignore the fact that the "overwhelming" support isn't nearl AS overwhelming as it once was (and that some who disapprove were once Democrats and now don't consider themselves to be Dems any more)... Indicating that millions of Democrats no longer approve (as any period of time on DU would demonstrate).

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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 03:13 PM
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8. It hasn't been brought up in a while
About the reservations the Civil Rights black establishment had about Obama. I doubted it was all jealousy as had been intimated and in fact the main problem here is not race but the universally typical top Dem establishment. At least on our part. I don't think the typical GOP hate voter would understand the "nuance" between traditional black progressivism and a centrist Reagan admirer. They are too busy burying the truth of their own racism.

You really can't fault one individual Dem leader above any other when it comes to the issues, the style, the message, the core beliefs, the dubious political "pragmatism" which was/is the surest road for an illogical GOP populist insurgence. And above all the corrupting influence of money everywhere no matter whether saint or criminal. I am sure that the crowds in the primaries who supported Hillary or others could imagine things turning out pretty much the same. The color of hate is always red, no real object needed. Bowing to corporate influence and the system would vary by degrees not essence. The sad continuity of a bloody inexcusable foreign policy would need someone from the "lefty" side willing to tilt at the Foggy Bottom windmills and somehow rally the people through the walls of corporate Pravda noise.

The situation is the same as it was before the primaries. Get rid of the right radicals. Work for issues and new Dem leadership. No one in the present will see the Promised Land, but we have to move.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:04 PM
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13. Good point, Patrick
I supported Obama early on and was shocked, maybe a little appalled, at the opposition voiced by Andrew Young, who declared Obama 'wasn't ready' and Jesse Jackson, who said He wanted to 'cut off Obama's nuts'. And there was even more. Interesting that you reminded us. Thanks.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 03:07 PM
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6. Yeah, I'm sure that's the only possible reason...........
:eyes:
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 03:11 PM
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7. The media has done a very "good" job..
pathetic.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 03:20 PM
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9. So, 19% of voters are planning to vote Republican, even though they're angry at them.
These people say they're even more angry at Obama. Um, doesn't this just sound like die-hard Republicans holding their noses? Where's the story?? :shrug:
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 03:48 PM
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10. Well, Pres. Obama still has better approval ratings than either Clinton or Reagan at this same time.
Edited on Fri Oct-01-10 03:50 PM by ClarkUSA
19% are ignorant/crazy/cranky/bitter sore losers/bigots. That's no surprise, given what President Obama faced in 2008.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 04:00 PM
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11. I keep hearing people say PPP is a Dem pollster but all they ever do in their polls is point at
Obama. Sometimes Rasmussen is better than PPP polls.
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