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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:59 AM
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Manchin’s Message: I Won’t Be Democratic ‘Rubber Stamp’
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. -- Gov. Joe Manchin III's odd political dilemma in his bid to succeed the late Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D) was evident the minute he began speaking to the 55th annual gathering of a local Democratic club.

Rather than delivering the standard Democratic campaign boilerplate, Manchin launched into well-rehearsed remarks assuring his audience that if elected on Nov. 2 he will not "rubber-stamp" President Barack Obama's agenda, that he opposes cap-and-trade legislation to regulate carbon output, and that he would work to repeal much -- although not all -- of the new health care law. Manchin delivered the same line during a pep talk to volunteers at the Monongalia County Democratic headquarters.

In an interview on Thursday afternoon following his luncheon speech at the Clinton District Democratic Women's Club, Manchin readily acknowledged that Obama and Democratic leaders in Washington, D.C., are acting as an albatross in a Senate race that most prognosticators assumed would be among Democrats' few easy victories this fall. Manchin is running against wealthy Republican businessman John Raese, who has led the governor in most recent polls.

"It's hurting, it's hurting. And, yes, don't like these overreaching government policies," Manchin said in the lobby of the Ramada Inn Hotel in Morgantown. "We're a West Virginia Democrat, we're responsible, we're held accountable, we don't think everything should be given away, we think you should earn it. We don't think government should tell you everything you should do. But you have to have government for that balance, and they think it's out of balance."

"The only rubber stamp I am is for the people of West Virginia," he added.

Read more: http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docid=news-000003749319&topic=Feature
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:02 AM
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1. How about running as a Democrat? You know, stand up for the little guy?
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 11:19 AM by neverforget
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:10 AM
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2. So, whose agenda will he rubberstamp?
Don't answer that, it was a rhetorical question.

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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:15 AM
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3. His Agenda is Big Coal
and always has been - so why not just run as a Repuke and get it over with;
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:33 AM
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4. Gee not run as a Democrat run as a republican if that is how you feel
or did you run as a Democrat thinking you would get the most votes while still being a republican.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:33 AM
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5. Democratic Politicians are the last to catch on, I fear. The change
has come--it is here. Either be an authentic Democrat or
an authentic Republican. DINOs are not selling and it is
going to get worse for you.

Do the Joe Manchin's of the world ( and we have quite a few
here in DC) not get it??? You look like a weak Hypocrite
when you diss your own party. This rubber stamp line may
have worked years back. An authentic Democrat can win.
People want leaders who believe in something and who will look
out for their interests. People will often vote for you even
if they do not agree with you on every issue.

Do not give voters the opportunity to pick a real Republican
because they cannot stand "fake" 'Republicans. (DINOs)
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:27 PM
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6. Obama got 42% of the vote in this state.
Was he not being authentic enough?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:36 PM
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8. I do not believe Obama was dissing the Party or its leaders.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:30 PM
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7. He should dress up as a lump of coal for Halloween. That's pretty much
all he's doing here--pledging his utter devotion to Big Coal above all.
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:55 PM
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9. I suppose his argument would be "what's good for big coal is good for WV"
And it's not entirely untrue, a lot of jobs depend on coal and steel there (my wife's home town of Weirton is basically a company town owned by Weirton Steel). Those of us with an environmentalist bent need to rise to the challenge of planning how places like Steel Valley can make the transition to a post-carbon economy without devastating job losses.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:03 PM
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11. Yes--that is the reality of that region, politically.
Although Manchin seems to be going a little overboard on the Dem-refudiating (to borrow a Palinism).
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nxylas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:35 PM
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17. Yeah, it's not like it's rock-ribbed Republican
He's already the governor, ffs.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:57 PM
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10. In his opponent's latest ad, he says "I'm not perfect" ... and uses "rubber stamp" three times...
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 01:57 PM by jefferson_dem
over a 30 second spot. What a fucking teabagging tool.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:06 PM
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12. I Agree
What is Machin supposed to say?

"I'm going to be a rubber stamp."
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:08 PM
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13. Besides, electoral politics and messaging aside, I suspect it would be the truth.
Manchin would be more Ben Nelson-ish than rubber stamp-ish if he is elected to represent WV.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:10 PM
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14. His Opponent Is A Real Piece Of Work
I rather have Manchin. flaws and all.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:18 PM
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15. Well THAT'S a relief!
Now where did I put that sarcasm thingie...
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:22 PM
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16. Say "Reid/Pelosi" if you must... or even "Obama"...
...but if you're running as a Democrat, for heaven's sake don't say you won't actually BE a Democrat.

Say you're a WV Democrat not a Washington Democrat. This is just dumb.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:05 PM
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18. Did you read the OP?
You said

"...but if you're running as a Democrat, for heaven's sake don't say you won't actually BE a Democrat.
Say you're a WV Democrat not a Washington Democrat. This is just dumb."


Manchin said

"We're a West Virginia Democrat, we're responsible, we're held accountable, we don't think everything should be given away, we think you should earn it. We don't think government should tell you everything you should do. But you have to have government for that balance, and they think it's out of balance."

You're calling him dumb for not saying exactly what he said.

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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:34 PM
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21. There's a difference between saying "A instead of B"
And saying "A and B"

The concern is that he's knocking the party in general rather than just the few that moderate dems in WV have a problem with.

It's as if he's not trying to pick up democratic voters.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:17 PM
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19. I can definitely see Manchin at some point going all the way with this kind of stuff --
and promising, if elected, to caucus with the Republicans.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:20 PM
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20. A Republican light?
I don't think that is wise.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:53 PM
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22. Light? nt.
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:13 PM
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23. Opposite of heavy lol
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 09:16 PM by golfguru
Light is the correct word, Lite is slang.
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