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mdavies013 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 09:39 PM
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Why Democrats are having trouble with base & most sane people...


He added, however, that the administration is focused on ensuring future compliance, rather than on looking back to make sure homeowners and investors weren't harmed during the reckless boom years. The administration is "committed to forcing institutions to change the way that they conduct business," Obama's top housing official said, "to make sure these problems don't happen again."

Link to story...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/20/obama-foreclosures-donovan-whose-problem_n_770591.html

Fucking arrest someone....send these thieves to jail. Prosecute fraud, prosecute abuse, enforce our laws.

Talk about two America's.

Rob a bank...go to jail for 30+years. Bank robs you...here's your bonus...and try not to do that in the future.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 09:57 PM
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1. The Democrats are having problems with their base ...
Because they do not know how to communicate with that base ....

They are weak .... They vacillate .... They are spineless mutes who cannot seem to put two words together to explain a platform plank, or a political philosophy ....

There is no attempt to capture newly christened voters .... No attempt to provide the information in a way that can be assimilated by the masses, and understood ....

Obama is an exception to the rule .... But his voice cannot carry the whole load ....

We need a party that EXPLAINS what it is about, and shows, in bold relief, the difference between 'us' and 'them' ...

I have been disgusted by the lack of political philosophers in our midst .... and by that, I mean those who can walk the walk AND communicate to a mass audience ....

We need teachers ..... They aren't there .... This has been a problem long before the last two years ...
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:49 AM
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8. Obama is an exception to the rule!...How's that ?
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 06:22 AM
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10. The Dems are having a problem with their base because
they no longer represent the common citizen. Instead they (the leadership) have been co-opted by the corporations. The same corporate elite that runs the Rethugs and that early on co-opted the Tea Baggers now control the Dems through "campaign contributions".

The leadership spouts left sounding ideas on occasion but in every instance they act in favor of corporations and as the right wing corporate elite's desire in matters of no consequence to corporate operations. So in all matters they are controlled by the moneyed interests.

How can one support a party and especially a president that acts against our interests, after all, we're not stupid republicans.....are we?
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 06:43 AM
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13. Gets hard to do that when it's only words and the actions aren't quite backing them up. nt
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 10:09 PM
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2. Future Compliance, Sir, Can Only Be Had By Punishing Past Malfeasance....
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Grey Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 10:24 PM
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3. I agree and concur.
Ignore the past to your own detriment
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 10:26 PM
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4. Damn right..... (oops - sorry, magistrate) -nt
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golfguru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 11:41 PM
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5. and... Mr. Bank if you get in trouble
due to your greed based stupid actions, we will
bail you out so long as you are too big to fail.
If you are just a small & local bank, by all means
you can go bankrupt.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 11:52 PM
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6. well, who the heck is the base, anyways?
Cause it sure as hell ain't liberals and progressives; the party considers them the fringe kooks.
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hulka38 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 12:10 AM
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7. You're ok with the administration's course of action here?
Because that's what this is about.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 05:55 AM
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9. The best way to ensure future compliance is to put a few of the present
lawbreakers in jail. It sends the message.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 06:26 AM
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11. The got caught defrauding investors and customers not
smoking dope, so not only no jail, no enforcement of any kind.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-10 06:36 AM
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12. The perception is people are struggling to keep their underwater homes, yet rescued banks thrive
Perhaps, because it's true. The Obama administration has not done enough to help people struggling to stay in their homes. This has been my deepest disappointment with the Obama administration. He said he would freeze foreclosures during the campaign, yet he did not. Congress failed to pass 'cramdown' in bankruptcy, because the 'banks who own Congress' said no. The Making Home Affordable loan modification/refinance program has fallen woefully short of its goals.

Perhaps Elizabeth Warren can convince Obama to get behind cramdown during the lame duck session--which might incentivize banks to write down the principle. If anyone can do it, she can.

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