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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:20 AM
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There's Nothing Routine About It (secret money)
THERE'S NOTHING ROUTINE ABOUT IT....

There was some discussion on the Sunday shows about what's become of campaign financing in American elections, but much of the talk made it seem as if this year was par for the course.

It's not. E.J. Dionne Jr. explains this morning that this is "a huge, historic deal," despite media reports that have "treated the spending avalanche as a normal political story and arguments about its dangers as partisan Democratic whining."

Imagine an election in a Third World nation where a small number of millionaires and billionaires spent massive sums to push the outcome in their preferred direction. Wouldn't many people here condescendingly tut-tut over such a country's "poorly developed" sense of democracy and the inadequacy of its political system?

That, of course, is what is going on in our country as you read this. If you travel any place where there is a contested House or Senate race, you are bombarded with attack ads, almost all against Democrats, paid for by groups that do not have to reveal where their money comes from.

What we do know from enterprising journalism and the limited disclosure the law requires is that much of this money is donated in large sums from a rather small number of wealthy individuals. <...>

The outside money should be an issue for Democrats. They ought to be asking, even more forcefully than they have been, what these secret donors expect for their money. You can be sure that the benefactors will not keep their identities hidden from the members of Congress they help elect. Only the voters will be in the dark.

I don't doubt that at some point next week, leading Dems are going to note that Republican gains were purchased by shadowy far-right groups, relying on secret donations from a handful of extremely rich conservatives, which progressives simply couldn't keep up with. Republicans and news outlets will call this an "excuse" -- a word Politico used in this context this morning.

But dismissing this as little more than an after-the-fact rationalization is a mistake. For one thing, the argument happens to be true. For another, the new system is simply unhealthy. Dionne added, "Secret money is dangerous. Secret money corrupts. Secret money is antithetical to the transparency that democracy requires. And concentrated money, which is what we're talking about here, buys more influence and access than small contributions."

And right on cue, the New York Times reports, "The anonymously financed conservative groups that have played such a crucial role this campaign year are starting a carefully coordinated final push to deliver control of Congress to Republicans, shifting money among some 80 House races they are monitoring day by day. Officials involved in the effort over the midterm elections' final week say it is being spearheaded by a core subset of the largest outside conservative groups, which have millions of dollars left to spend on television advertisements, mailings and phone calls for five potentially decisive Senate races, as well as the scores of House races."

One of the right-wing hatchet-men boosting Republican candidates, boasted, "We carpet-bombed for two months in 82 races, now it's sniper time."

Anyone who thinks this is good for the American political system isn't paying attention.


Media Matters: Rove keeps on spinning to defend the secret donations to his GOP slush funds



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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:39 AM
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1. Remember Bebe Rebozo??
Who carried sacks of money to the Nixon campaign? That was one of the reasons campaign finance became such an issue after that. And now we are back to Nixon standards.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:41 AM
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2. When should new disclosure legislation be pushed?
Assuming we lose the House but keep the Senate... should this be an effort for a lame-duck legislature? Or a push early in the new year?

One may look bad, while the other may be ineffective (as the new majority might not let it come for a vote).
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:58 AM
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3. "One may look bad, while the other may be ineffective..."
Why would it look bad?

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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:05 AM
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4. "Sore loser"
You lose a big election and then immediately push for legislation that would make it harder on the winner the next time around?

Too many people will assume that it has nothing to do with the principle involved and has more to do with trying to game the system.

Yes, I think that can be overcome with planning, careful message crafting, and letting it marinate with the public... but you can't cram that into a short lame duck session. There isn't enough time - and there are other priorities on the plate.

Again, (assuming we do as poorly as most predictions expect), there are going to be quite a few things that we try to rush through while we still hold a majority (some judges, some legislation that we want credit for before the republicans do it anyway, etc). Picking which things to push will be critical.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:08 AM
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6. What?
Did you miss the DISCLOSE Act vote and the continuing calls to pass it?


"You lose a big election and then immediately push for legislation that would make it harder on the winner the next time around?"

At this point, Rove's spin is more convincing.

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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:19 AM
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8. What does that have to do with the timing on when to address the issue again?
There's no "spin" here.

Lame duck sessions for a losing party are very dangerous subjects. The meme is that the voters just told you they rejected your policies... so you try to ram some through while you still can?

Keep in mind that the majority of Senate Democrats are not facing the voters this year. They're not going to stick their necks out unless they know a) that they'll win the vote and b) that it won't hurt them with the electorate.

I'm saying that I think this can be a winning issue for us in the coming cycle, but we have to play our cards carefully. Try and push it during the lame duck session and lose? You may not get another chance. Better to hang it around their necks for the next two years. Better to use it as a bargaining chip in the negotiations re: House and Senate rules and how the two will work together over the coming two years.

If Republicans get 49 seats in the senate and Nelson/Lieberman decide to play games with a power-sharing arrangement... this could be a particularly usefull chip to pick up.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:22 AM
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9. Spin
"Lame duck sessions for a losing party are very dangerous subjects. The meme is that the voters just told you they rejected your policies... so you try to ram some through while you still can?"

May I remind you of this

Why is it that you seem to want to concede this issue to Republicans?

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:06 AM
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5. Oh BIG k&r.... The beltway blather is making it sound like it's
same old same old... Which it ISN'T!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:13 AM
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7. Thanks.
What the hell is with all the unrecs?

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:26 AM
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10. All cylinders are firing on the "nothing to see here" meme.
They are firing on both sides of the aisle... It is just a gauge of HOW MUCH private money is being pumped into the race.
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:44 AM
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11. Tried to rec...a kick will have to do.
I hope the "both parties are the same" crowd can truly appreciate the ramifications of this. We need Dem majorities in order to appoint fair minded Justices who will uphold the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Act.
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