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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:12 PM
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Conspiracy Theory: Conservatives won in the UK 6 months ago...
... and Germany as well recently...


... Could it be that the PTB are reforming the 1st world governments to their liking?

(And the only thing that stopped them here totally was they didn't anticipate an O'Donnell or Angle mucking it up for them?)
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:14 PM
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1. It's not really a conspiracy, conservatives, defying reason, are some how seen as good for economy.
The world has been, as you know, in a major recession. Conservatives magically benefit from it.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:16 PM
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2. People turn into reactionary conservatives when the economy goes bad
Counterintuitive, but true. I'm pretty sure there has been at least one or two recent academic studies to this effect.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:20 PM
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3. Citizens United was definitely a PTB project
Ever since then they are doing all their ratfucking in semi-public view. It's legal now.

Who knows what happened in Europe.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-10 07:23 PM
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4. Ockham's razor.
Edited on Wed Nov-03-10 07:24 PM by Davis_X_Machina
Who needs a conspiracy when you've got hard times and a lot of stupid, a lot of angry, a lot of frightened on the loose in a developed world -- thank god -- composed of parliamentary democracies with the universal franchise?

And who needs a conspiracy when parties of the left -- Labour/New Labour, SPD, etc -- fall prey to cycles of self-destruction, drift and general lack of focus? Never interfere when your enemy is busy blowing himself up.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:33 AM
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5. The Conservatives didn't exactly win in the UK...
they just lost by less than Labour or LibDems did.

It was the election that everyone lost!

The Tories got 36% of the vote. Not exactly a landslide victory.

They were able to gain power due to a combination of our very unsuitable and distorted FPTP electoral system (designed for two parties, but we have more than two parties) and the LibDems having a weathercock for a leader. Divisions in the Labour Party also didn't help.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 03:53 AM
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6. Alot of it depends on who was in power when the recession started. Labour had 13 years in UK.
Murkel lost seats. Sarcose is unpopular in France. Austrailia's labour party lost seats and ejected their PM. If anything this shows that people don't know exactly what they want. Some would say people want coalitions and divided government but really people in democracies don't know what they need.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-04-10 06:11 AM
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7. The days when British and American conservatives walked the same walk and talked the same talk
Edited on Thu Nov-04-10 06:16 AM by pampango
are long gone.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/worldview/101103/us-election-discourse-economy

Until the American electorate grows up and acts like the mature society it used to be — accepting that governing happens in real time and no one can undo the current mess in a year or two — this will be a foreign country to those of us who have lived away a long time. More dangerously, it will be foreign in the sense of unknown to the rest of the planet who watch the United States aghast at how the leader of the world has been transformed into a squabbling, dissension wracked polity, unconfident and fearful and unable to find its way out of the dark.

In Britain, even the conservative press has found the Tea Party and Republican Party difficult to understand. They happily bash President Barack Obama on their opinion pages while trying to understand how the political discourse in this time of crisis could be so puerile. The days when British conservatives and American conservatives walked the same walk and talked the same talk are long gone.

Today's Conservative Party-led coalition government in the United Kingdom would not waste a moment campaigning against the idea of man-made climate change — indeed it campaigned last spring on how to grow the economy by funding solutions to the problem. Gay lifestyles? That's a non-issue, there are a number of out gay men in the British cabinet.

Science using stem cells and human fetuses? Prime Minister David Cameron's son suffered horribly in his brief life from a variety of nervous system disorders. Cameron would not stand in the way of any research that might help future sufferers of Ivan's myriad problems. The Conservatives would not try to repeal the National Health Service. They campaigned on a promise to save it from budget cuts.
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BTW-Don't conservatives think that the prospect of "one world government" is a conspiracy of the left. The right seems quite afraid of the UN and the prospect of the dreaded "North American Union". ;)
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