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[flpoljunkie]

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[msongs]

1. republicans keep doing this stuff because it works. til it stops working they will keep doing it nt

[BlueJac]

5. So the dumbest of all must be the Democrats.....

for their failure in wisdom, or their buying in on a lie.

[zalinda]

12. Which is why so many of us

old time dems are so angry. We want the old Democrat party back. The one that stood for the masses, not the corporations.

zalinda

[AzDar]

2. K & R

:kick:

[patrice]

3. K&R

[JoePhilly]

4. Why doesn't the media point this out and keep the lies from becomning ...

conventional wisdom?

[flpoljunkie]

6. Why? Because they work for big corporations and the vast majority of them act accordingly.

In short, they do not do their jobs.

[JoePhilly]

8. But the media is sooo liberal!!

:sarcasm:

When Obama talks about such things, the liberal media cuts away.

[Armstead]

11. The media won't do it unless the President and high-profile Democrats do it

It has been a pattern for at least three decades. The media is going to report the conventional wisdom. Unfortunately, the Democratic leadership who get onto the media parrot a tamer version of the same Corporate Propaganda as the GOP.

The GOP and their Corporate Overlords say ridiculous things, promote Voodoo Economics, twist the truth in ways that appeal to people's basest instincts and play on their fantisies. As a result some truly Awful Stuff has become the "conventional wisdom."

One would expect their opposition party, the Democrats, to actually oppose these messages, and state a strong and clear alternative message from a liberal/progressive side. Expose the lies and the shallow thinking behind CONservative economics.

But have the Democrats done this? Noooooopoooooo. Instead they present a kinder and gentler version of the same Free market Fundamentalism that the GOP does. They seldom really challenge the deregulation and privatization and the Monopolistic Mergers of the Corporate Elite.

[Enrique]

7. that's not Obama's style

his style is to co-opt their lies. It's better for him politically.

[ProSense]

9. Reich succeeds at calling out Republican lies, but

this is an absurd argument:

President Obama and Democratic leaders should be standing up for the wages and benefits of ordinary Americans, standing up for unions, and decrying the lie that wage and benefit concessions are necessary to create jobs. The President should be traveling to the Midwest – taking aim at Republican governors in the heartland who are hell bent on destroying the purchasing power of American workers. But he’s doing nothing of the sort.

<...>

Look, the President can’t be everywhere, doing everything. There’s tumult in the Middle East, we’re suddenly at war in Libya, Japan is struggling with the aftermath of disaster, and surely Latin America is an important trading partner.

But nothing is more central to average Americans than jobs and wages. Unless the President forcefully rebuts Republican’s big lies, they’ll soon become conventional wisdom.

The President should not be traveling to the midwest and taking on Scott Walker and the rest. That's absurd, and has been debated to death.

If the case can be made that Kucinich is doing his job in Washington while Kasich succeeds with his assault on unions, why should the President drop everything to travel around the country to take on Republican Governors? How does he do that and engage in the budget battle in Washington?

Congressional Republicans are launching their own assault on social programs and unions, the President needs to deal with those issues.

With Boehner, Cantor and Ryan determined to attack every social program, the minute the President launched such a tour he'd be accused of ignoring the budget battle in Washington.

At least Reich acknowledges that the President can't be everywhere.

[flpoljunkie]

15. But hardly the crux of Reich's argument

President Obama has the biggest megaphone and he needs to use it.

[snot]

10. K&R'd!

[bbgrunt]

13. +1000

[paulk]

14. Obama's biggest failing is that time and time again

he has adopted the conservative narrative on issues. It is liberal policies that will get us out of this mess, not conservative/moderate ones - and Obama, instead of, for instance, buying into deficit reduction, needed to be making the argument that the recovery needs MORE spending, not less. Even if it cost him politically. He was supposed to be a great communicator - the person most qualified to make this argument - yet he has consistently put his own political aggrandizement before the good of the party and the country.

So far his presidency has been a disappointment, at the very least.