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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:37 PM
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STOP! Is the President up or down in the Polls.. I am so confused
My head is spinning..

One thread has the President ahead with young people.. two threads later.. he is 53% in Gallup.. three threads later he is sinking with Quinnipac..

I am getting Dizzy :)
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:40 PM
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1. Polls fluctuate.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:43 PM
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2. A person needs to be strapped in with a seat belt to keep up with these polls
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:44 PM
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3. Since when have people been able to resist polls?
:D

It didn't help that the week-old Quinnipiac poll was reposted as something new.

Ah, it must be primary season again!
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:45 PM
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4. I did not know whether to stand and cheer or slink off and leer.
:rofl:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:51 PM
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5. He is always higher in approval than the fucked up-trumped up-crafted corp polls report...
Edited on Sun Apr-03-11 07:51 PM by FrenchieCat
hell, they won't even let him finish a damn speech
about alternative energy or a job reports on the television.....
they give him 2 minutes and then pull the plug....
so of course folks in the US who don't pay close attention
to begin with have only the opinion imposed onto them
by the corporate media to go on.

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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:00 PM
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7. America has developed the attention span of a gnat
and media outlets do not help. The President is a thoughtful speaker in a twitter world. Twenty years from now, I am afraid we might see a Chris Christy in office, because people can't pay attention long enough to see what a blow hard he is.. What am I talking about.. look at Wisconsin and Florida..people are already there..
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:24 PM
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9. I think the media is not only NOT helpful, I think the results you speak of
Edited on Sun Apr-03-11 08:25 PM by FrenchieCat
are the results that they have matter-of-fact specifically been aiming for.

Look, even on the progressive side, folks don't care to know nuance anymore,
no longer into acknowledging political reality based on the world as it has been,
nor do they care how congress works, nor how laws are enacted.
And worse still, some are the biggest offenders of accusations via guilt of association
based on Fox news-like tenuous cherry picked information,
all the while pretending that what they do is something else....
when it is not any more impressive than what the asshole dumb-ass Republicans do,
that same progressives say they cannot stand.

Same progressives have also refused to understand the tactics used by the
side with the biggest media megaphone, and how much more this side has to do
to get even a blip on the public opinion radar.....

Instead, many live in a simpleton-knee-jerk-vacuum-packed world where the only goal
is criticizing any and every minutia of what they see or hear coming from "sources"
about this President, and presenting such critiques as some kind of solution....
when it ain't even remotely close....in fact, rather is has proven to be self-destructive.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 07:56 PM
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6. Yes
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:02 PM
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8. The only poll that matters is the one at the voting booth. I do give Obama this much
credit when it comes to polls, his internal polling is something that can't be ignored. His released internals after the primary season were almost all within one percent of actual turnout.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:30 PM
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10. FTW!!
:thumbsup:
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:36 PM
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12. I find it highly amusing about how many threads have started in the past few days
stating how Obama has this in the bag. I think many are going to be surprised to see when Republicans nominate someone more in the mold of George H W Bush and less in the mold of Palin.

My guess, the nomination is going to go to Pawlenty.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:49 PM
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15. Will you find it that amusing?
Please tell me why it would be funny?

Will you feel quite satisfied then?
Will you tell us that you told us so from the beginning?

Because if so, I'll tell you that it is the never ending
attacks from the amused that will get us where we end up,
or it will be in spite of them....Cause to date, they have
been nothing more than useless to the Democrats,
while being used by the Republicans a la Nader.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:59 PM
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18. I look at it this way, I'm not being well served by Obama, just as I was/will be
ill served by Republicans.

You can argue that by people not supporting Obama, then they're supporting the Republicans, but it's a false claim.

Why you ask?

So happy to answer. By not supporting truly liberal candidates like Nader or Sanders, you're not really helping to strengthen the Democratic party.

Obama wanted to be a transformational president, like Reagan, but he's not willing to take the tough stands and move the country to the left like Reagan did by moving the country to the right.
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Union Scribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 10:46 PM
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21. So you plan to blame fellow Democrats, no matter what happens.
Gotcha.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:54 PM
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17. They have to nominate someone like a GHWB
There's no way a Palin-type would win, imo.

It'll be a tight election, I think. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:02 PM
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19. Iowa is going to upset the tea partiers. One issue will cost the tea party
the Iowa caucus - farm subsidies. Iowans do not want to hear that bio-fuel is going to be cut and farmers are going to lose corn subsidies. From there on out, the tea party is going to lose steam. NH is not going to give them much better results and SC is going to kill the tea party. The only hope they have is to make up for it on super-tuesday when many deep south states hold their primaries, but it might be too late for them by then.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 09:04 PM
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20. Very true.
Good post.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:36 PM
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11. Both. Just like his position on most issues.
Quite simple, really...
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State the Obvious Donating Member (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:44 PM
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13. That's probably the purpose.....to cause confusion. nt
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:46 PM
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14. The results that piss off your opponents is the one to endorse.
I am sporting the one that says that carrying concealed weapons cures cancer.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-03-11 08:54 PM
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16. Are you referring to that outdated outlier of a Quinnipiac poll?
I saw it was posted today as if there weren't newly released polls to refute that nonsense. Frankly, I know why it was reposted. It's all they have. :rofl:
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-04-11 01:11 AM
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22. Here is all of them together (he's at 46/46 trending down)
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