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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:43 AM
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Should we really have as a goal the lowest level of federal spending since Eisenhower?
Edited on Sun Apr-10-11 11:14 AM by dsc
In 1960 we had no Medicare, no medicaid, no civil rights laws, no epa, no department of education, and a whole host of other things. If we reduce our spending to 1960 levels then what are we willing to cut that existed then and exists now if we wish to keep the list I have above. On edit: This is the goal that David Plouffe is touting on the Sunday News Shows.

On further edit

In 1960, the last year Ike was in office, we spent 18.48 percent of GDP on the federal budget. In 2010, we spent 23.82 percent of the GDP on the federal budget. To cut down to Ike levels we would see a massive decrease in spending. Every one percent of GDP is equal to $145 billion so that cut would be $774.3 billion.
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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:45 AM
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1. Depends.
Can we get the level of taxation we had under Eisenhower, too?
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abelenkpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:45 AM
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2. Particularly foolish goal
If we aren't also returning to the tax rate under Eisenhower.
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walerosco Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 09:39 PM
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10. why not?
with 2 wars going on, not even the middle class deserves a tax cut. But remember, increase govt revenue wouldn't increase the GDP, so even with increase tax revenue, they cannot spend anymore money on the economy.

I say bring it on
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:48 AM
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3. It
depends.

Krugman: "Mr. Obama...has done more to rein in long-run deficits than any previous president."

Reducing health care cost would reduce spending levels, and that's a really good thing.

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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:50 AM
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4. I am not saying that all reductions are bad
but there is no way, no how, that we will cut federal spending on health care to levels lower than 1960.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 10:54 AM
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5. I don't have a problem with it, as long as the taxes are the same
You can't fix it using just one side of the equation
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 11:10 AM
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6. If the people refuse to accept the necessary tax rates on the wealthy, then YES
This is a democracy. You may think your fellow citizens are clueless and are driving this country into a ditch, but they showed up to vote in bigger numbers in November than people who agree with you.

On the other hand, if this were a dictatorship and I the dictator - no.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 03:33 PM
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7. Just in December we had plenty of money to vote in tax cuts for the rich
Edited on Sun Apr-10-11 03:33 PM by high density
Now in April it is time to reduce a half century of domestic progress...

Yesterday I got multiple mailings from Democrats (including Obama) begging for my money.
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 03:56 PM
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8. Here's the problem
Government, both Congress and the Presidency, do not how to solve for x in a basic mathematical equation. If x represents taxes in the following equation, 4+x=8, Obama and Congress believe that x=1.

Unless we convince that taxes need to be raised to 4 to equal spending, then we're never going to get anywhere.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 08:49 PM
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9. kick
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