Which of these presidents has been most courageous at fighting right-wing extremism in the U.S.?

[Onlooker]

Poll question: Which of these presidents has been most courageous at fighting right-wing extremism in the U.S.?

Why did you vote for your choice?

[SteppingRazor]

1. Can't I vote D) FDR? n/t

[Fridays Child]

4. Me, too. FDR.

[Mojambo]

2. It's kind of not fair, because rightwing extremism and power hasn't been a static thing

It's grown exponentially over time.

Carter looks better, but only because he wasn't dealing with nearly the same thing.

This is not to say that both Clinton and Obama have done well in that respect. They've been awful.

[existentialist]

7. Good point.

I was aware that the point could be made; I voted for Carter anyway.

(Actually I voted for all three of them.)

[xchrom]

3. I'm only running off memory here - but clintons remarks after OKC and the very

Heated response from the right has me giving it to Clinton.

[FrenchieCat]

5. 4 vs. 8 vs. 2.4 yrs

Apples vs. oranges vs. strawberries!

No Fox or RW loonies vs. Signing the Telecommunications act that birthed Fox vs. Fox & Limbaugh in Full Bloom

This forced comparison is so shady.

[State the Obvious]

14. Thank you. Your point is on target.....why is it often ignored?

The Republicans like nothing more than to group various political situations as "the same".....especially when they are not.

Eight years of the Bush administration brought us the expense of two unneccessary wars, and tax CUTS to the richest Americans....and the Republicans said NOTHING.
Now, for the last two years, Obama has spent much of his time cleaning up after the "elephant" (so our country can move forward), and the hypocritical Republicans beat down his efforts with any contrived lie they can manufacture.

We all need to stand up to them. It is a parent (Dems) vs.child (Reps) scenario........unfortunately, at times, the child seems to be winning. :shrug:

[okieinpain]

35. yeah, where is our version of the tea baggers. All I hear and

see are tea baggers, where are the patriots, or whatever we want to call them.

[wndycty]

15. And as I said in my thread, did either Carter or Clinton accomplish all that Obama . . .

. . .already has?

HELL NO!

[MNBrewer]

16. Such as??

[FrenchieCat]

25. Well, let's see.......

8 years = Losing the Health Care Battle + signing DADT/DOMA + Repealing Glass-Steagall + signing telecommunications act + ignoring Rwanda + Dot Com Boom jobs but that later went bust + NAFTA + Zipper problem that brought on impeachment proceedings

vs.

2.4 years = Winning the Health Care Battle (even if we didn't get everything) + Signing DADT repeal + Signing in Financial Regulations bill (including a Financial Protection Agency) + Dealing w/t an entire ME Upheaval during the entire time that both right wing and left wing media have been on the assault against him.


as for Carter, I'm sure he accomplished a lot by his first 2.4 years in office.....problem is he didn't get re-elected, so I guess even Democrats didn't think much of whatever it was that he did at the time......although I'm sure some can refresh us on this....

ditto LBJ, who ended up choosing not to run for 2nd term based on his reading of the landscape of how little Democrats supported him. Certainly, it helped LBJ to have just replaced a deeply loved dead President, but folks know this, I'm sure.

Seems like those being called courageous against the RW ended up leaving the Presidency to a Republican. How Neato! Let's just do that again some more.

[MNBrewer]

26. Accomplish, with regard to fighting right wing extremism....

[FrenchieCat]

28. Those who fight RW extremism

leave us with a Republican President.

Who was President after LBJ, after his serving only one term?
Who was President after Carter, after his serving only one term?
Clinton served his two terms, and was impeached, and then who stole the 2000 Election?

If this is how courage is repaid....where the American people are made to suffer
a Nixon, a Reagan and a Bush.....fuck that shit.

[MNBrewer]

30. In your post, #25, which of those things are accomplishments in fighting RW extremism?

THis post to which I'm responding is a nonsequitur.

[FrenchieCat]

31. If you don't think that fighting RW Tbaggers to get health Care,

and fighting RW bigots to repeal DADT,
and fighting RW Corporate interests to
get Financial Regulations passed,
than you don't know what fighting is.

Plus he had to fight the RW 24/7 hate machine and the corporate media,
and the Firedoglake Professional Left wing whiners,
all at the same time.

[BklnDem75]

29. Funny thing is most of the fighting Carter did was after he left office...

He was such a fighter, the PL of that time couldn't wait to primary him.

[Mz Pip]

6. Maybe LBJ

He doesn't get nearly enough credit for what he did for the Civil Rights movement.

[ruggerson]

12. +1

Without a doubt.

He knew he was planting the seeds for a solid Republican south for generations, but went ahead and did what was right regardless.

[AtomicKitten]

8. Fighting is a strategy. Winning is what's important.

[ruggerson]

10. Winning

[wndycty]

11. True dat!

:kick:

[genna]

32. Other than Charlie Sheen...I think winning means the middle class buoys to the top

We aren't winning. Our children's ranking is declining.

Clinton's third way was demoralizing.

Obama taking on slogans and giving away the store is depressing.

I think the best democratic movement I've seen in the last couple of years is what the protesters in Wisconsin and Ohio have done. For people in Michigan to get stirred up and head to the state house is eye opening. The midwest is not normally known as the bulwark against conspicuous conservatism, but there we are.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

9. Ellenor Roosevelt

[DURHAM D]

20. AMEN

[ProSense]

13. Which one had to fight racist/birthers/teabagger,

Koch brothers and Trump?

Then there is the Internets.

It's relative.

[treestar]

17. I would hope this does not mean you leave that solely to Presidents

[blueclown]

18. How the fuck is LBJ not on this list?

[Onlooker]

19. If I put LBJ, Kennedy, FDR ...

... the poll wouldn't have revealed anything. Sadly, since LBJ our Democratic leaders have been quite spineless. If I had asked who was the most spineless of the Democratic presidents, I am sure the moderators would have closed this thread.

[DURHAM D]

21. Great question. And this love affair with Carter here on DU is cracking me up.

Obviously most of the voters weren't around during his administration.

[Onlooker]

23. Actually, in the defense of Carter ...

... he did make foreign human rights a central focus of US foreign policy, which it had never really been before. That said, overall he was quite conservative and anti-union.

[Demeter]

22. FDR

followed by his relation: Teddy.

They don't make them like that any more---or at least, they don't let them run and win.

[ProudDad]

24. Ronald Ray-Gun and gwbush

[FrenchieCat]

27. They didn't fight RW extremists....

they were RW extremists.

[ProudDad]

39. Actually, they fought the RW extremists in their own party

who are now in charge of the House...

[FrenchieCat]

40. Well, I guess you know your Republican history better than I do!

Fascinating!

[Ter]

33. How is Carter in the lead?

While Prez, what did he ever do to fight RW extremism? cottle tail with Pinochet?

[krawhitham]

34. Which one got HCR passed?

[donheld]

36. You know who Carter blames for that?

[Raine]

37. L B Johnson nt

[JoePhilly]

38. Which one saved the US auto industry?

The right wing extremists would have been happy to let it die.