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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:07 AM Original message |
Ralph Nader: Pressure Obama with primary |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
1. Punxsutawney Ralph. |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. LOL n/t |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. How'd that Bush Presidency you helped give us work out, Ralph? |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Exactly. How many thousands of voters bought that big lie? n/t |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. If you look at it historically, Nader's assessment was correct |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Bullshit |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. They put tame centrists who are socially liberal on the courts |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 03:30 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. If your choices are |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. They're not the same......One is just less bad than the other |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 04:12 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I'll agree with that |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 11:02 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. I guess its a mater of terminology -- and the GOP sets the bar really low |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 11:43 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. There have ALWAYS been big |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. To get back to my original point -- Not always so much |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 02:04 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. I think people were more |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 02:23 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. I agree with that...mostly |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Supreme Court confirmations |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
79. Exactly |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
78. Bullshit |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #15 |
72. Nader's assessment is assinine. The Party's aren't equivalent. Only utter fools buy into that. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. About 97,000 in Florida |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
73. and Florida was supposedly decided by ~500 votes |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 02:34 PM Response to Reply #73 |
94. 537 to be exact |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. so there can be no doubt. No Nader = President Gore |
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ReggieVeggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #2 |
27. you have a link for that quote? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. Gore won the 2000 election. The SC stole it and handed it to |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
3. No comment here.. |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. And when Ralph |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
5. STFU, Ralph. n/t |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. +1 |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
8. Then why doesnt he do it himself? |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
10. There's slimy Nadir again. A repuke to the core |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
11. Fuck Nader. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. not even with wadsworth's... you know... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Don't let Wadsworth read that post. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. remind me to tell you the story about the time i mowed the lawn in my "led zeppelin jeans"... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Hahahaha!!! |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. Desperately Seeking Relevance /nt |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
13. If he's convinced that Obama will win re-election in 2012 |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
80. Maybe because Obama is NOT A LIBERAL |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
14. ???? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:43 AM Response to Original message |
17. Nader goes outside the two party system and he's demonized. He tries to reform from within and.... |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #17 |
70. Nader is a piece of shit. eom |
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vroomvroom (496 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
18. THANK YOU, Nader! Makes Perfect Sense! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. "Makes Perfect Sense"? |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. It's clearer that people who call Obama unprogressive don't know how US government works |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Horse Manure |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Bull chips! |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. You are still misconstruing that old post, eh? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. "His basic message"? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Do you ever pay attention to anything beyond the Democratic Party? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. "I am not saying Nader is a saint, or even very smart politically. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Activism and partisan politics are not the same thing necessasrily |
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Admiral Loinpresser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. The right Ha Ha, but the wrong Ho Ho. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
39. "he is technically more right-leaning than Regan(sic)" |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #18 |
71. you're about as much of a Progressive Democrat as Ralph is. |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
20. The only name he can offer is Jim Hightower who served 4 years as Texas commissioner of agriculture |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
22. Ralph, helping fuck things up since 2000. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
25. Whether Dems have a primary challenger or not, the prez needs to be... |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
29. "Let's you and him fight." - Ralph Nader. |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
30. Nader is an urban legend |
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Admiral Loinpresser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 11:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. We've just elected the first African American president. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. +1. If he were serious about building a progressive movement, he'd |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. A correction -- He is busy between times on a variety of things |
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Admiral Loinpresser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Like Bob Woodward, Nader is a former hero. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. I will not totally disagree -- He's not what he used to be. But he is still in the arena... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #48 |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Okay -- We all have our reptillian brains, including me |
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Admiral Loinpresser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. lol, nice talking with you, see you around. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
44. Pretty much. Anyone still cares what this guy (who took Repug money) has to say? |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
33. Great advice from the candidate who made FL close enough to steal. n/t |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
81. You mean Pat Buchannan? |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
35. He never learns. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
40. Yep, Mr. Nader...... |
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
43. Nader is the Donald Trump of the "left." |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. LOL....Yep.... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
45. Nader does not have credibility. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
82. Nader does not have credibility with knee-jerk democrats |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
53. And people blame Gore |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
60. Fuck off Ralph. |
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Keith Bee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
61. Shut up Ralphie! |
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shellgame26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-11 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
65. Eff U Nader |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
67. He made a bunch of promises without a primary opponent; I think he'd just do the same thing if he |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
68. How in the world does that make Obama move to the left? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
84. Obama asked him to do it... |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-11 08:26 AM Response to Reply #84 |
99. Any evidence? |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
69. just go away, Ralph. wasn't 2000 enough for you? |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
75. Well, I think the concensus of this forum is that The Crypt Keeper should STFU. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
95. NOT always against Democrats....But screw the facts when stereotypes will suffice |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
77. He's only following Obama's suggestion... |
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MercuryRepeater (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Ralph Nader hasn't achieved any progress in 40 years. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. You just haven't been paying attention... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Yeah right...What a lot of hogwash |
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MercuryRepeater (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 02:00 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. so what has he done since "Unsafe at any Speed"? enlighten us. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. A lot..But I'm too busy to waste time trying to correct someone who's mind is made up, so.... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. +1000 |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #77 |
98. Why use quotes when Obama never said those words? |
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91. Fuck off Nader. |
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