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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 05:53 PM
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If you didn't hear Candidate Obama say he'd
give the Republicans everything they wanted, you weren't listening. That's not _his_ fault now, is it?

He was pretty clear.

Enjoy your peas and catfood, chumps!
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 05:55 PM
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1. Obama is going to cut Social Security and
there's not a single Democrat in Congress who can stop him.

That's one bad....

Shut yer mouth!

"Enjoy your peas and catfood, chumps!"

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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:01 PM
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2. If you think this new thing is working - its not.
Use some of these - :evilfrown: :evilgrin: :silly: :sarcasm:

And my personal favorite - :hippie: Puncher
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:04 PM
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:31 PM
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6. I heard he was going to do MORE
than cut it....Heard he made the deal to deep six SS, Medicare, Medicaid, Community Health Centers, welfare, etc...'cause he needs the money so he can also deep six any tax liability for those poor folk with incomes that are in excess of $500k.

Guess we can't afford peas of cat food, huh?


And, since there is already a post suggesting this be used, i guess I will.....:sarcasm:
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 09:45 PM
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13. Don't think he has any choice but to cut all the things you've listed.
We know he isn't going to offer up any real tax increases - maybe some tax loopholes will end someday, maybe a reworking of the tax code might happen sometime in the future, but now won't be the time - maybe never will be the time.

http://ampedstatus.org/how-your-social-security-money-was-stolen-where-did-the-2-5-trillion-surplus-go/#oba?du

President Obama is the fifth president to participate in the great Social Security scam, but he has the dubious distinction of being the president, on whose watch, the Social Security time bomb, activated 25 years ago by President Reagan, will run out of time. All of the previous administrations knew that spending Social Security revenue, as if it were general revenue, was wrong and was a violation of both federal law and the public trust. But, they all had the luxury of knowing that the raided Social Security money would not be needed to pay benefits while they were still in office. However, President Obama learned early in his presidency that, unless the government ended the raiding and began repaying the money that had already been raided, Social Security would face a major financial crisis during his presidency.

Beginning in 2015, and every year after that, payroll tax revenue will be insufficient to pay full benefits. This was known in 1983 when the Social Security “fix” was enacted. The plan was to draw down the large reserve that is supposed to be in the trust fund and use that money to supplement payroll tax revenue so that full benefits could be paid until 2037. But that money has already been spent, so the government will have to come up with the money again to repay the $2.54 trillion that it embezzled. This might be manageable in the early years, when the difference between benefit costs and payroll tax revenue is minimal. But, each year, the amount of money needed to replace the looted money gets bigger and bigger. For example, Social Security will run a deficit of approximately $41.4 billion in 2010. But in 2020, the Social Security deficit will have grown to $101.4 billion. Five years later, in 2025, the Social Security shortfall will be $274.6 billion. In 2035, the government would have to come up with an astronomical $621.9 billion in order to pay full Social Security benefits.

When President Obama first saw these numbers, he must have almost gone into a state of shock. His predecessors left him with a lot of problems that can plainly be seen by the public—two wars, a collapsed economy, and a gigantic deficit and debt. But the embezzlement of the Social Security trust fund money was done without public knowledge, and it is doubtful that Obama knew anything about it prior to becoming a United States Senator, and he may have not known about it until he entered the White House. President Obama cannot just kick the can farther down the road as his four predecessors have done. He must find a way to raise the money to repay the government’s debt to Social Security, or cut Social Security benefits so the money will not have to be repaid.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:24 PM
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:28 PM
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5. You are again pushing a falsehood about President Obama. Is that your sole agenda?
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 06:28 PM by ClarkUSA
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:46 PM
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9. I'm sure we'll be hearing the same nonsense for the next 2009 days.
That swhould give him plenty of time to make up a new one.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:58 PM
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10. Wait, so the President is a Victim?
See posts 3, 8, 9 & 12.

Or are some victims legitimate, innocent, sadly and unfairly put-upon souls;
while evil others use it as a dastardly propaganda tactic?!

Could that in any way make any possible sense?
Surely not!

Tis a downright puzzlement...


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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:59 PM
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11. There's no shortage of strawman arguments from you today, is there?
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 09:49 PM
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14. LOL
You put forward Strawman accusations that I'M responding with Strawman arguments.

Simply delicious! :rofl:

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 09:01 PM
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12. Yes. Yes it is.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 10:07 PM
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15. Oh cliffordu, cliffordu!
Edited on Thu Jul-21-11 10:08 PM by Cherchez la Femme
And I was informed my sole, pony-desiring, vampiric, Veruca-Saltish agenda was my "pet cause": equal rights for LGBTQI's!

Will y'all PLEASE make up your mind about what my sole agenda is?
Really now, should I be the last to know?



Plus, it's against written DU rules to:
"question(ing) the character or motives of other DU members; discussing DU members rather than ideas"




Hence I'll be expecting your posts to be deleted aaannnyyyyy minute now.........




























:rofl:

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 01:09 AM
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16. Wasn't talking to or about you - look at the links above.....
I was responding to what Clark said about the OP......

:hi:
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 02:45 PM
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18. Well if I was wrong, I apologize then.
what I saw was Clarkie's query of "Was that your sole agenda" -- about 'pushing falsehoods about the president' -- which is ALL he said in that post.

and your response, to him, of: "Yes. Yes it is."

Curious. :shrug:

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 03:35 PM
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20. Clarkie's query was to the OP's author.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 04:43 PM
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21. Oooohhhhhhhh
I see it now.

Please accept my most humble apologies.

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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 08:17 PM
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22. NO harm no foul.......
:hi:
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 02:38 PM
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17. self-delete, wrong place
Edited on Fri Jul-22-11 02:44 PM by Cherchez la Femme
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 06:40 PM
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7. I think it's nothing more than political
posturing. Here is a take on what's happening, by Frank Schaeffer.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/frank-schaeffer/president-obama-will-win-_b_906104.html
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R. P. McMurphy Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-11 08:13 PM
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8. Thanks for that link. It really puts things in perspective. (n/t)
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-11 02:48 PM
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19. Obama Bad Obama Bad Obama Bad ...
Nothing has happened, but man Obama is evil.
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