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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:51 AM Original message |
next presidential primary, lets choose someone who isnt constantly praising Ronald Reagan |
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boston bean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. good thought, and then not believe the people who said he didn't mean what he said. nt |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:37 AM Response to Original message |
2. If you're going to fantasize about something that will never happen |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Thakfully that can only happen once more at most! |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. no one "constantly" praised anyone. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Tell you what, for those of us who are not religious bigots |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:58 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Let me use the actual words |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
5. Here's an idea |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:56 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. republicans were hurting when Obama came in |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 08:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yeah |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 08:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. As opposed to a Democrat who has just about single-handedly destroyed the Democratic party? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 08:16 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. . |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 08:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Jonathan Kozol, yesterday: "Obama has betrayed us." |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Who is this savior? |
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patthemick (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
7. Someone who doesn't quote Ronald Reagan. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. No Democrat would vote for the racist Ron Paul |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:49 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Hello. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
116. mmmm, I smell pizza.... |
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great white snark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
15. No. |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
16. Honestly, back before the primaries when I read that Obama admired |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
17. 9% unemployment (we know the real #'s are higher) - I wish the man I voted for had been quoting FDR. |
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boxman15 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. One problem with that is |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. +10000 |
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boxman15 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
19. He's never praised his policy choices. |
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Kdillard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Stop trying to make sense in what is only bash Obama mode. They |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:07 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. +100 |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Stop making sense. It doesn't matter to some. |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. Absolutely no one on the left is asking for all or nothing. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. So he just should have done nothing |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. That's what you got from my post? |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. We found out later there were enough votes for it? |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
89. Many sources, but I'll link two |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Well he's kind of failed |
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boxman15 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #30 |
105. I somewhat agree. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
25. constantly praising is hyperbole |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. "constantly"? Give us every single quote in context. List all of their dates, too. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Ever is bad enough. Reagan should be forcefully repudiated and completely and utterly disavowed. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Then Hillary is crossed off the list: "Bill and Hillary PRAISE Ronald Reagan...." |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. That statement was made on the day Reagan died |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. So what? She meant every word, I'm sure. Unless you believe she and Bubba are liars? |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
90. He spens a lifetime fighting it, then praises the Reagan "transformation" |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
117. Yes, Hillary is crossed off the list. Why the fuck are you always throwing up the Turd Way |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. you give me one link to a speech where Obama does NOT slobber all over Reagan n/t |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. lol! You made the OP claim. Prove it. |
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Blasphemer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
32. I can honestly say that I will be far more cynical when it comes to choosing candidates to support |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
33. In Congress and in the Presidency. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
39. You can nix Hillary. While she was a Republican, "Hillary Clinton Campaigned with Ronald Reagan!" |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. yeah when she wasn't even 21 |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. She praised Ronald Reagan when she was well over 21, too. It's a pattern which disqualifies her. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Obama is almost 50 years old and still praising Reagan |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Yes, it's a means to an end. He praised Reagan's raising of taxes during this debt ceiling debate. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Hillary served on the 1974 impeachment committee of Nixon |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Moving the goalpost? WTF has that got to do with her GOP roots & her admiration for Reagan? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Deleted message |
ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:53 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. I linked to facts. You resort to personal attacks because you can't refute these facts. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:57 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. So did I, but apparently you don't like facts |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. You offered no facts, just rhetoric. Nothing can dispute the facts I have offered. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. He spent a lifetime, then praised Reagan's transformation! LOL! |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:22 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. Huh? I gave you a quote of what he said after Hillary lied about what he said. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. that is such a chicken shit thing to do |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Yes, that's a good description of this fact-free OP. Nice of you to notice. |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
69. That statement was made when Reagan died. What did you expect them to say? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Are you saying they lied? Because there's no sign they didn't mean every word. |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. I'm saying they used tact and diplomacy and didn't piss on a dead man's grave. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Exactly |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
91. lol! Any excuse will do. Former Young Republican Hillary can do no wrong, eh? |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
107. And your Hillary hatred never disappoints. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:12 PM Response to Reply #107 |
111. lol! Inconvenient Facts About Hillary's Republican Roots & Recent Pro-Reagan Gushing = "hatred"?? |
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Vanje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #107 |
119. It is truly amazing |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #44 |
94. You are so funny Mr. One Note |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
40. You would have thought that would tip us off. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Still waiting for proof from the OP of WTF he's babbling about. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
110. I know you are. But some of us actually kept up during the campaign |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
42. I didn't realize that he was constantly praising Ronald Reagan during the campaign |
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rury (629 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
45. He praised Reagan's communication skills |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. During this debt ceiling battle, he praised Reagan's raising of taxes 11 times during his presidency |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. Obama praised Reagan for his "transformation" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. An Open Left op-ed from 2008? They were huge Hillary boosters back then. She lied, they lied. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:54 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. There is a video of Obama praising Reagan right there |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:56 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Exact quote? Hillary lied about what Obama said in the SC debate. He smacked her down (quote). --> |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. I'm assuming you can read |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. You offer no quote? Well, as I said, Hillary lied about what Obama said and he smacked her down --> |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:23 PM Response to Reply #78 |
93. Here you go! |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Link to a transcript? Your words seem a bit jumbled. What Pres. Obama really said --> |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. that is baldly false |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Um, no. It's true. rury backed up what he said with facts. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
95. seems like you must be swimming upstream |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Empty rhetoric. |
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Starbucks Anarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
49. Links to those statements? |
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kjackson227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
55. I don't think President Obama "praises" Reagan... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
59. Buh bye Hillary 2016: "Clinton's website lists Reagan as one of her favorite presidents." |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Only Obama and Bush haven't raised taxes during war time |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:33 PM Response to Reply #61 |
112. More like Obama and Bush are the ONLY WORLD LEADERS to have cut taxes during wartime! |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. I would like a link to a screenshot of her website saying that |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Go ask Newser.com and David Plouffe. I just report the facts. Your denial isn't my problem. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. No you linked it |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. +1000 You're right! Its time he "proves" his own claims |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:51 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Actually, rury did. You ignored the facts and continue to do so. Not my problem. |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 02:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
76. I have his book with his very own words |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Hillary lied about what he said about Reagan so he smacked her down during the SC debate --> |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Where's the screenshot? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:04 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Your denial of what Newser.com reported is not my problem. rury and I have noted facts. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:09 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. You have proven nothing and provided no facts |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Bullshit. Why are you misleading people? One mo' time: Quote and link to Newser.com report ----> |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Where is the screenshot on her website? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. lol! Moving the goalpost? Why don't you contact Newser.com? I urge you to. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:28 PM Original message |
yawn...where's the screenshot? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
99. Are you afraid to contact Newser.com? Hillary hearts Reagan, her being a former Republican and all. |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
98. yawn...where's the screenshot? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Hillary praised Reagan when she was nearly 60 years old and he's one of her fav Presidents. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:37 PM Response to Reply #98 |
101. Trash the Clintons obsession. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Facts need no embellishment when it comes to the Clintons. (Quotes, links to Hillary's history)---> |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. pathetic |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. The sword cuts both ways. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #109 |
118. Hillary? Obama? Seems to me that sword is cutting in one the direction, right. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
103. Deleted message |
DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Perhaps you need to read his book. nt |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
108. He never praised Regan. He was talking about the trajectory of change, not policy. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
113. I'll happily endorse that proposal. n/t |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
114. "constantly praising Reagan"??? How? When? Hyperbolic fringe nonsense. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
115. the minute the candidate is *presented* by a celebrity on their show |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-31-11 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
120. You are what's wrong with modern day politics. Yesteryear's statesmen.. |
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