Democrats just have no fucking balls....

[PCIntern]

Waaahmbulance time! This jerk sends pics of his stiffie and his well-developed (!) musculature all over the Internet like a putz, so since he knows that he's in trouble and knows that no one will stand with him if he's discovered, he sets himself up to be the liar-of-the-week rather than going up on the podium and saying, "Yeah, it's mine. Jealous? This was stupid of me and I'm not going to address it anymore since it's the 21st Century and it's between consenting adults, but you know what? I'm pretty muscular and hung pretty well for the wimp you all probably think I am, and so the 'burner's' on you. Thank you and have a nice day." And in a perfect world, his Democratic colleagues would pose before the mics and echo his sentiments, and say that he's a manly man, and so what? At least he didn't go onto the Appalachian Trail, or employ prostitutes and wear diapers for crying out loud.

But he knew that these pretender-prudes would sell him out, and so he lied through his teeth. 'Cause he knew what was coming. Harry Reid with that ridiculous downcast comment, and others. We really need to grow a pair, so to speak, and stand up and say, "Yeah, we make mistakes, but you know what? This particular mistake is inconsequential." that's what the Republicans do to great success - weapons of mass destruction, Iran-Contra, waterboarding, you-name-it. And don't tell me that it's just as bad if we do it. Screw 'em: you're goddamned right we're gonna do it and you best better get out of the way, 'cause we're a steamroller coming through to give fair wages, equal rights, medical care, support for the military and the Veterans, and all the other worthy notions in America.

Oh yes, and his wife: well, that's a complicated situation - all marriages are by nature that's why they take so long to sort out in couples therapy, but this one, for a variety of reasons both on and off the record, would be staggering to resolve. So it's their business and they can work it out to the best of their abilities. No one can possibly guess what goes on, as they say, 'behind closed doors', so it's time for the amateur armchair psychologists to just forget about it and move on.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. Well, MSM does concentrate on cock, not balls.

[aquart]

2. But one of us does have a sizable zucchini.

All those newscasters salivating in envy. My goodness.

Anthony's dick matches his voting record if you think of it.

[LiberalLoner]

16. LOL I just want to go around following your posts because I'm getting a real kick out of them

lately, LOL!

[Avant Guardian]

86. Mine's bigger

My zucchini, that is...

[ooglymoogly]

118. Are Anthony's roots in Nantucket per chance.

If so, it should give said limericks meaning.

[fascisthunter]

3. the people who really want him gone don't like his politics

I do believe some are very use at him for being stupid, and impulsive in his private life, but the hand wringing, anger and desire to see him step down is ridiculous. It has got to be his politics.

[NoodleyAppendage]

4. Unfortunately they tend to use their balls in inappropriate ways. n/t

J

[PCIntern]

6. Yeah and you know what...

as Philip Roth wrote and I'll paraphrase somewhat: it's for fucking, OK...that's what it's for and that's what drives billions and billions of people to do all kinds of stuff, Ok stuff and dopey stuff, and you know what? At least he's not fucking a chicken, OK?

[CTyankee]

59. Uh, I don't think Philip Roth is a very good example to use....just sayin'...

[PCIntern]

107. Why not?

Roth, who was actually an acquaintance of mine when I was buddies with the son of Brian Moore, the Irish-Canadian author, was right on the money AFAIC.

[CTyankee]

119. Let's just say he wasn't much of a feminist...

[HopeHoops]

5. Yeah, hard call - the Weiner pic didn't show any balls, did it?

[PassingFair]

11. The current one does.

Don't look!

[HopeHoops]

14. The only one I've seen was the one plastered all over the news sites a few days ago.

I'm not interested in any of them.

[CakeGrrl]

47. Now there's the NSFW version

...that was inadvertently taken secondhand by a video camera rolling where Breitbart was showing the radio talk hosts the picture on his iPhone.

They froze the video footage of the picture on the iPhone and it's all over the 'net.

:crazy:

[kimsarah]

120. I'd be interested

in a photo of Andrew Breitbart's face and his fat nose plastered against Weiner's ass.

[mwooldri]

57. Weiner needs to take a trip to the UK and visit Ed Balls.

Mr. Balls is presently the Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequor (i.e. opposition chief finance spokesperson).

Then there can be a totally G rated picture taken with the caption "Weiner meets Balls".

[BDavinciNY]

106. Well....

BALLZ TO YOU!:D :D :evilgrin: :bounce:

[Duer 157099]

7. I think he should not have even said it was a mistake

Why not just own it and say yeah, I did it, so what?

[PCIntern]

8. Fair enough...

except that at some point you have to accede to the fact that sexting while married is not a great idea, but I get your point.

[Duer 157099]

18. But that's between him and his wife, period, imho

in theory a wife might not have a problem with such behavior, as long as it stops there. It might provide some sort of needed outlet that is, supposedly, safe enough.

I don't see a problem at all, but we are a nation of busybodies and it sucks.

[whathehell]

69. Oh yeah...That would have worked well.

:eyes:

[sofa king]

9. Oh, are we back to that meme now?

Because last I checked, the Democrats have prevented every single Republican-authored bill from passing in the Senate, are poised to win every special Congressional election held this year, delivered the 2012 elections from dog-catcher to President with a nice bow on it eighteen months before anyone even votes, and killed Osama bin Laden.

But yeah, keep on with the no balls thing, because if you keep saying it, some Democrats just might stay away from the polls next year.

[PCIntern]

13. With the gigantic readership of DU, you're probably right...

:sarcasm:

[gateley]

19. Nobody's going to stay away from any polls because of what PCIntern says --

and you cite some very good points, but in cases like this they tend not to show solidarity and are too willing to say "off with his head"! I think the reasoning for that is solely political (plus they were pissed that he lied to them, even though every one of them would have probably done the same), so it "reads" well in public. We're Dems and we don't tolerate this! Please. :eyes:

But again, you're absolutely right on about what they HAVE accomplished. :thumbsup:

[PCIntern]

22. yes, and they in fact have both accomplished a lot

and prevented a lot, but the follow-thru sucks IMO...they had the Rethugs on the ground and refused to finish them off. Lousy combat tactics.

[frylock]

84. they lent them a helping hand when they should've put the boot to their neck

the republican party would be all but dead if not for the assistance of the democrats.

[PCIntern]

24. ...oh and one more thing:

Who's controlling the House? Dems were warned for months that they needed to stand up and fight and they just rolled over and died. I GUARANTEE you that no Republican would have acted like that when they were so close to success...they fought hard every step of the way in all the elections and rose up again like the Phoenix which they are...

[sofa king]

34. A breeding goat has big balls too....

...And just like the Republicans, a breeding goat also cannot submit a budget proposal with actual numbers in it.

So frickin' knock it off with the no balls crap, please! I have no problem with anything else you said--you have an informed opinion and took the time to share it with us in a cogent way, which I appreciate. But I don't appreciate the works-for-them soundbite that gets repeated every single day here. It can start stopping with you.

[PCIntern]

41. Whereas I appreciate the compliments,

what has happened to the siutation is exactly indicative of the fact that what I said is true. Did you happen to watch all these groveling Dems? Ever seen a Republican cower like that in front of a camera for much worse things? Really...

[sofa king]

53. (D) politicians are more likely to have empathy, remorse, and shame.

As are you, as am I, and as 98% of humans on earth are more likely to have. It's an asset, not a weakness.

Take those qualities away, and you have Dick Cheney and Newt Gingrich--and Henry Lee Lucas, John Wayne Gacy, and Dennis Rader. Take those qualities and intelligence away, and you have Sarah Palin and George Bush. If you ever wonder why the Republicans have no problem wrecking the lives of millions of people at a stroke, that's your answer. That's "balls."

But truth be told, no, I didn't watch a damned thing about this stupid scandal, didn't read anything past the headlines here, and didn't comment on the issue until your thread came up. This week, scientists contained antimatter for fifteen minutes, Hamas is considering getting out of politics, the Japanese turned out to be lying about their blown reactors, and I blocked traffic for about a minute to shoo a family of mallards out of the road, all of which are more important stories than the ones about this chump.

[JVS]

10. K&R. He should have done a Charlie Sheen and stood his ground.

[stockholmer]

77. ah, Charlie Sheen was fired, so not a good analogy

[gateley]

12. Agree about the no balls, but I gotta say again that it's an

entirely different situation since he KNEW how it would reflect on the Party and potentially jeopardize his political career if he were to get caught. In this case, his responsibility went beyond "consenting adults" -- it affects way too many people, and we all suffer if we lose him, IMO. THAT'S what pisses me off more than anything.

[PCIntern]

15. I agree completely, but he did do it...

and threw himself on the pyre.

Unneccessary IMO...

[Bake]

17. Weiner has few friends/allies in Congress.

He's not a popular guy. Wasn't popular within his own party even before the scandal broke; reputation as a grandstander more than a hard-working legislator. So perhaps he shouldn't expect a lot of support from them now.

Bake

[PCIntern]

20. Again you're right and you helped my point:

in Democratic circles he's a "grandstander", in ReTHUG circles, he'd be a "patriot".

That's why we often LOSE when we should be WINNING.

[demmiblue]

21. :Looks down: You're right; I don't have any fucking balls.

Who knew?

:shrug:

[dkf]

23. Because this is how manly men treat their wives right?

That is so disgusting I dont know where to start.

Way to treat your pregnant wife too. If she kicked him to the curb I wouldnt blame her.

[PCIntern]

27. I specifically stated that the issue with his wife was a personal one

and that they needed to work this out between themselves. Plenty of divorces occur without public revelations like this so there's much more going on everywhere than meets the eye.

You wanna crucify him, sure. I get it...I'm depressed as hell myself...my point is that he handled this so poorly after the fact because he knew that his own kind would eat him for dinner.

[dkf]

29. He did this when she is pregnant. Aren't you floored by that?

I was all...whatever... But now I find out about his wife and I am livid at him.

[PCIntern]

40. sure you are...

and I get it...

and I don't blame you.

I'm not going to cast aspersions upon her...I would simply repeat what I posted in the OP: that there are terrible personal complications here both on and off the record and it's between them. I think he's an asshole, but it's not personal - I'm livid because he's taken the pressure off the GOPers for a time, but not personally: I have no intimate relationship so I'm not angry personally, anymore than he'd be angry at me if I did something really stupid.

[dkf]

45. Too many women will look at this and remember the worst cad they ever came across.

Like me.

[julian09]

64. Evenworse than Arnold to Maria

he had two pregnant at same time in same house.:sarcasm:

[October]

25. I so WISH he'd have handled it like this

Much as I'm not thrilled with his judgment/stupidity -- it's all in how you handle it.

Good God!

Vitter in a diaper with a prostitute -- and he's greeted by his own with applause upon his return.

[krabigirl]

26. agreed.

And why I would care about anything that Patriot-Act loving Harry Reid has to say is beyond me.

[Kaleva]

28. Why lie if he already knew what was coming?

[PCIntern]

31. Because desperate men do desperate things...

and he was desperate because he knew that there was no one to work with him to extricate him from the situation. He was 'dead meat' on arrival.

[Kaleva]

38. I agree with your assessment that he was 'dead meat' on arrival..

but I also believe that people will lie for a reason and in his case, it was a hope that this would all just go away and his explanation would be accepted.

[spanone]

98. he said he was trying to protect his wife....now we know why

[ProSense]

30. "But he knew that these pretender-prudes would sell him out, and so he lied through his teeth. "

Weiner had an opportunity to portray Breitbart as a character assassin. Instead, Weiner decided to play his colleagues and supporters for several days, giving Breitbart a moment to gloat in the end.

It's bad enough he's apologizing to Democrats, but the fact that he apologized to Breitbart, ugh!

[PCIntern]

32. Horrible...

he should have told him to go and f--k himself or the equivalent. Gone on the offensive...

[ProfessionalLeftist]

33. Like many have said - it was the LIE that was the biggest issue.

Stupid on top of stupid. Being stupid once, - ok we all do that sometimes - but to pile more stupid on top of that - well ....

[PCIntern]

36. Exactly my point...

thank you.

:hi:

[Gregorian]

35. I'm still trying to see just what is wrong with sharing photos of bulging undies.

Did I miss something? Aside from lying, I'm still trying to figure out why this is an issue. Is it because he's male, and males can't do that kind of stuff in America? It's only for females?

What's the deal? It's bulging undies! Next...

[PCIntern]

37. He knew the dick pic and others were out there somewhere...

like Nixon, THEY know what they've done, we don't...we STILL don't know everything that Nixon did or wanted to do, and that's why he lied and lied and lied, and that's why they pardoned him...'cause if people found out what was REALLY going on, it'd been BIG TROUBLE....BIG!

[truth2power]

100. And when Nixon referred, in the tapes, to "the Cuban thing"

and he made that reference numerous times, I think it was something to do with the Kennedy assassination. I've thought that ever since the transcripts came out years ago. Yep. BIG trouble.

[PCIntern]

109. Ed Zachary! U R rightola... n/t

[mmonk]

39. But we have a weiner.

[craigmatic]

42. Yeah pretty much. Wiener has balls and the rest of them are afraid to stand up with him. It's

partly because of politicians being scared of contoversey and partly because most of the prominent dems are scared the republicans will say something negative about them.

[PhillySane]

43. And we get to look at those balls everyday now.

He should just "hang in" there. Maybe give us a new pic every week or so. We'd all be so proud of our Weiner. Wouldn't we?
I think he needs some time off. Spend it with his wife. Get to know her a little. Screw what we want or need. I think he needs to worry a little about himself.

[Beartracks]

44. "Yeah, it's mine. Jealous?" LOL

"This was stupid of me and I'm not going to address it anymore since it's the 21st Century and it's between consenting adults, but you know what? I'm pretty muscular and hung pretty well for the wimp you all probably think I am, and so the 'burner's' on you. Thank you and have a nice day."


I could SO see Weiner making this kind of a statement. Too bad he chose not to.

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[lonestarnot]

46. Sir! Yes Sir!

[sellitman]

48. This matters because no Republican has the name "Weiner"

It's just perfect. Made for Hollywood.

[PCIntern]

49. Like Palin, it can't be scripted any better...

[ctwayne]

50. Let's Get Real Here

Weiner is an oversexed, horny American male who doesn't get much at home. His wife is a high-powered State Department official who works directly for Hillary Clinton. When Ms. Clinton takes a two week trip to Asia, Ms. Weiner goes with her. In addition, he is a New York Congressman with a Washington wife. So take all the days he is traveling outside of Washington, all the days she is traveling outside of Washington, and all the days when he or she is working late into the night, and they have very little time together for sex.

So being a nice guy, he doesn't sleep with a staffer, or try and pick girls up in bars, or hire an high-priced call girl. Instead he chats with random women on the internet and masturbates. Why this is a big deal, I don't know? Anyway, it's between him and her. I'm personally more worried about global warming and endless war.

[Waiting For Everyman]

51. Yup, and he should turn it around to go right back to the issues, as you said.

K&R

[paparush]

52. The Look

[BonnieJW]

54. Or have a "wide stance" while soliciting

in an airport men's room.

[LibDemAlways]

67. And Mr. "wide stance," who was arrested for his

bathroom escapade and pled guilty to a disorderly conduct charge, served out the remainder of his term. Imagine a Dem being able to do that in an identical circumstance. I can't.

[Nevernose]

55. It's like the house is burning down

And the MSM has rushed back inside to get the porn collection. Not the kids, or the pets, or the photo albums, but the soft-core porn.

[on point]

56. Balls, backbone, gumption, it is all the same. They work for the corporations!

[tularetom]

58. When a republican gets caught in a mess like this

He can lie his ass off, deny, hang tough, because he knows even when it all comes out he will still enjoy the support of his party.

Weiner on the other hand, lied his ass off, denied and hung tough as long as he could because he knew his party would turn on him once the facts came out?

So what you are saying is that everybody sort of knows there is a double standard and that double standard has more or less been accepted by both parties as well as the media as a simple fact of political life in the US. The republicans are more than willing to accept the double standard because it works in their favor. And the Democrats accept this double standard because they have no fucking balls.

I could not agree more.

[USA_1]

60. ''liar-of-the-week''

Remember when the Dixie Chicks said they were ashamed of Bush being from Texas? This brought on a massive attack campaign from the far right. The girls and their families were threatened and several CW stations refused to play their music. This because it was said you are not supposed to criticize the president.

Well now. Just today I watched a replay of Monday Night Raw pro wrestling. A commentator named Jerry the King Lawler said, ''imagine if Obama spoke the truth just once''. This statement was said openly, yet there has not been one word of criticism from liberals or Democrats. Comedian and right winger Dennis Miller has also openly criticized president Obama -- yet, again, there has not been one word of criticism in response from anybody.

Over the years I have said on this forum that liberals and Democrats are just too cowardly to apply the same standards that right wingers apply to them. The facts prove that my comments on this matter have been true. America is getting more and more f°cked up each and every day. And this will get worse because libs and Dems are too afraid of fighting back against the onslaught of right wing lies and hate. It is a sad but true lesson in life that you have to fight fire with fire. Not with lovey dovey kisses and butt wiping. The moment libs/Dems learn that and take appropriate action, that's when America will take the direction it needs to correct the mess created by the far right.

[ccinamon]

72. +1 . . . I've been saying

the same thing since Reagan...and no elected official is "hearing" this...except Grayson and Weiner.

BTW, you said it better than I ever had!

Thanks!

[mazzarro]

80. + 100% - Same here!

I have been disappointed so often by the reaction of democrats when it comes to covering the flanks of their own people and the powerlessness of they exhibit when rethugs do worse than democrats and yet get easily away.

And we have democrats that preach to the rest of us about how we need to maintain our moral superiority when things of this nature happen and not grovel in the same pit as the rethugs. But I do not see such wimpy responses from democrats making any appreciable impact on the society at-large. If democrats as a group keep allowing this type of things to go on - then no wonder the rethugs have been obliging us by going at all our strong voices - they have, indeed, taken out Feingold and Grayson through elections, and now Weiner is being pushed to quit because of this crappy shenanigan; next will probably be Kucinich through gerrymandering and then they will turn on Sen Sanders - probably through another of their shenanigans. Who else are we going to be left with but all the corporate whores and DLC'ers. Sure they have paid attention to our voices in the past - eh?

Yet we are still being told to wait for our opposition to catch the holy spirit and become morally responsible just as we are - eh?

[Bonhomme Richard]

61. My thought was that every time the press spoke to him he went into a rant

about Clarence Thomas and the supreme court. If he had done that, the press, in very short order, wouldn't have any interest in hearing from him.
A simple rule in life. If you are thinking about doing something that you wouldn't want your friends and family to know about then it's probably a good idea not to do it. Works for me.

[Atypical Liberal]

62. What he did is not "inconsequential".

This particular mistake is inconsequential.

Do you think there were no consequences for his pregnant wife?

As I have said numerous times, this isn't about sending pictures and dirty emails. This is about judgement, honesty, loyalty, and integrity.

Anyone in this day and age should completely understand the risks of sending compromising pictures of yourself over the internet to strangers. Weiner's judgement is called into question.

Weiner lied about what he did. Not only that, but in so doing he allowed the blame for his actions to be transferred onto Twitter, who's account he claimed was hacked, and onto Breitbart, the journalist who broke the story and then was accused of faking or allowing faked pictures to be used. Weiner's honesty is called into question, and, by allowing others to take the blame for his actions, his integrity is called into question.

Assuming his wife was not aware of and approving of what he was doing these last 3 years with at least six other women, then Weiner was not being loyal to the person closest to him. If you are disloyal to your spouse what other loyalties will you disregard? Weiner's loyalty is called into question.

Yes, it would have been better if he had never lied about the pictures and owned up to them from the start. At least then his honesty and, to some extent, his integrity would have been upheld.

But his judgement and loyalty would still damaged.

[DainBramaged]

68. When you get Diaper Boy Vitter to resign, you can jump on your high horse

until then, work to get Democrats elected instead of defeated, unless that's the goal.

[Atypical Liberal]

76. That is a childish excuse.

My 2 and 5-year olds frequently use that excuse: "But Johnny did it and he didn't get in trouble!"

Most people figure out around 10 years old or so that this is not an acceptable excuse for bad behavior.

[DainBramaged]

82. Meh, meh and meh

high horses, plentiful on the DU.

[frylock]

85. lots of hypocrites too it would seem

[Atypical Liberal]

89. Low ones, plentiful in Congress, it seems.

[stockholmer]

78. one word that makes this a 'must-go' offense- BLACKMAIL

[DainBramaged]

83. ight, the weakling Democrats can be blackmailed, meh, meh and meh

Olive Garden, Cigarettes, breastfeeding, circumcision


narwhals, pit bulls, smoking bans, and soda pop


Rapture, PETA, breeders vs child free, High school bands, kids on planes, bombing the moon not so soon

ponies, Ipods, Ipads, and Michael Vicks, Applebees, vaccinations and now we have our Weinergate


Poutrage, outrage, keyboard justice outrage we didn't start the Weiner, but we want the Weiner gone.


Stop the madness.

[stockholmer]

87. nice rant! (I am serious), you made my day

:hi:

[mazzarro]

96. And why has daiper-boy not been blackmailed yet?

Why would you succumb to blackmail when you have already what you are being blackmailed about is already public?

[Atypical Liberal]

122. I think you missed the point.

You are right - once the incriminating information is made public, it can no longer be used for blackmail.

I believe the OP's point was that until the information is made public, as in the last three years that Weiner was engaged in sending out compromising pictures and messages, the politician is vulnerable to blackmail.

[truth2power]

102. Your outrage is overblown...

First of all, Mrs. Weiner doesn't need you or me or anyone else to come to her rescue. It's not our business. And I'm sure she is capable of taking care of herself and responding in whatever way she thinks appropriate under the circumstances, the fact that she's pregnant notwithstanding.

Secondly, a couple of days ago someone here posted a link to the alleged twitter/facebook feed (whatever it's called. I've said here before that I don't even understand twitter etc.) of Weiner's conversation with one woman.

And, yes, I clicked on it and read the entire account. IMO, it constituted what used to be called "phone sex" back in the day. So what? In my view, the only thing that should have set off Weiner's stupidity-detector was that the woman seemed to consider it a badge of honor that she was drunk practically all the time - kept referring to having been drunk the night before or was currently drunk etc. She had issues, IMO. A gigantic red flag in terms of discretion, if that's what his expectation was.

As far as Breitbart, I don't give a rat's patoot if he gets accused of assassinating JFK. He's a malevolent little slug who spends his time trying to bring down Dems and various others of a liberal bent; just because. And he's succeeded. Again. And he's diverted attention from the likes of Clarence Thomas, who really is a crook. You would think DUers would not be trying to assist him in that task.

[Atypical Liberal]

123. Rescue?

First of all, Mrs. Weiner doesn't need you or me or anyone else to come to her rescue. It's not our business. And I'm sure she is capable of taking care of herself and responding in whatever way she thinks appropriate under the circumstances, the fact that she's pregnant notwithstanding.

I am not interested in rescuing anyone, and have not claimed such. I'm merely pointing out that by his actions, Weiner has demonstrated that he is quite capable of being disloyal even to those closest to him. The only way this would not be true is if his wife knew of and approved of his actions, which I am going to doubt very much until proven otherwise. If a politician is willing to be disloyal to those closest to him, it calls his loyalty to anyone into question.

Secondly, a couple of days ago someone here posted a link to the alleged twitter/facebook feed (whatever it's called. I've said here before that I don't even understand twitter etc.) of Weiner's conversation with one woman.

And, yes, I clicked on it and read the entire account. IMO, it constituted what used to be called "phone sex" back in the day. So what? In my view, the only thing that should have set off Weiner's stupidity-detector was that the woman seemed to consider it a badge of honor that she was drunk practically all the time - kept referring to having been drunk the night before or was currently drunk etc. She had issues, IMO. A gigantic red flag in terms of discretion, if that's what his expectation was.

I have not read any of the exchanges, though I have seen the "bulging shorts" photo. I don't care about any of that. I don't care who he sexts to, nor if he likes sending dirty pictures to people. I am not interested in other people's sex lives. Nor do I care about the character of the women he was corresponding with.

I am, however, interested in a politicians sense of judgement. Anyone in this day and age who would send compromising electronic photographs or emails over the internet, especially to strangers, has serious judgement problems. As someone else posted, "He's 46, not 96, and this isn't rocket science."

As far as Breitbart, I don't give a rat's patoot if he gets accused of assassinating JFK. He's a malevolent little slug who spends his time trying to bring down Dems and various others of a liberal bent; just because. And he's succeeded. Again. And he's diverted attention from the likes of Clarence Thomas, who really is a crook.

I don't know much about Breitbart, and had never heard him speak until this issue. I understand that he is a right-wing hack.

But what you are basically saying is that you don't care about professional slander against someone if you don't like them. You are allowing your schadenfreude to excuse the fact that Weiner allowed, through his lying, a journalist to be accused of either faking information or propagating fake information, something that Weiner knew was not true. This means that Weiner's lie was not a harmless lie that only covered up his peccadilloes. Instead, his lie called into question the professional reputation of Breitbart, and also Twitter.

You would think DUers would not be trying to assist him in that task.

Weiner did it all by himself. I'm simply pointing out the facts. And whether Breitbart is a baby-eater or not does not change the fact that in this case his reporting was accurate and truthful despite Weiner's lies to the contrary.

[polmaven]

63. You are absolutely right!

I do not have any balls. Nor a cock, for that matter.

[Snoutport]

65. I disagree. Anthony Weiner proved he does...

sad, but true.

[uberblonde]

66. All this, over some dirty pictures.

Let's not forget what a REAL dirty picture looks like.

http://susiemadrak.com/?p=19801

[truth2power]

91. Thanks for posting that. Puts it all in perspective, doesn't it? n/t

[certainot]

70. doesn't work, as long as the left gives 1000 radio stations a free speech free ride any talk of

controlling the message by dems is a waste of time.

it wouldn't matter one bit what he said, or any dem says, if it works for the dems or they get lucky the outcome would be the same whether the limbaughs and hannitys shouted over it for one week or 10. they get to have it both ways until the left finally pulls their fingers out of their ears.

[LibDemAlways]

71. Repukes get away with pretty much everything because they

don't back down. Even Larry Craig, of the Minneapolis airport men's room incident, stayed in the Senate after lying to the cops and ultimately pleading guilty to a disorderly conduct charge. He stuck around because he knew his party wasn't going to force him out. Vitter's still in the Senate, too. And Clarence Thomas is sitting on the Supreme Court.

If Weiner was an "R" this would all quietly go away. Sucks for him that he's a Dem.

[BeliQueen]

73. You guys keep apologizing for him like he did nothing wrong.

You're blaming his lying on the people who wouldn't back him if he told the truth.

But the blame lies solely and wholly at his feet.

He sent out inappropriate pictures and had inappropriate conversations with women as a married man.

He cheated on his wife by having cyberSEX with at least six women.

And, HE lied about it when he was about to be exposed. He created the elaborate story that kept it in the news for 10 days instead of acting like a responsible adult and telling the truth. He acted like an adolescent and LIED.

Why is that Harry Reid's or Nancy Pelosi's fault?

[mazzarro]

81. NO - we are not excusing his behavior - we are only pointing out

the double standard that MSM and others like you have in judging these type of thing! Why is it OK when rethugs do worse yet they are let off the hook relatively easily? Why all the bellyaching when there are rethugs in congress with worse faults? Even look at the Iraqi war and the lies that were conjured up at every turn by rethugs and neo-liberals; and tell us how many have paid any comparable price for them? I dislike the apparent "head-in-sand" sanctimonious attitude of democrats in throwing their most feisty fighter under the bus at the first hint of trouble.

[Thav]

74. I'll never forget this exchange I had...

I was an exchange student in Germany around the time of the Clinton blow-job scandal (and the Elian Gonzales fiasco as well, I'm glad I missed the media frenzy of that). We were watching a news report on the Clinton scandal, when my 72 year old house mom turns to me and says, "I don't understand, what's the big deal about all that?" I thought for a second and then said, "I think it's because Americans can't stand the fact that other people have sex."

I think that's the crux of it, we're all extreme prudes. In Germany, I remember seeing an advertisement at a bus stop for a daytime soap star's recently released diary, or some noise. I looked at it trying to figure out what it was advertising, then did a double take at her outfit. It was a bra/panty set of sorts, and partially see-through. Enough to make out naughty bits. If something like that went up here, those bus stops would be bombed to prevent people from seeing it.

So Weiner sent pix of himself to other women. The only person who should have a serious issue with this is his wife. The rest of us need to carry on. Those making political hay out of this need to quit fapping to those pix and also carry on.

[carolinayellowdog]

75. Turning Reagan's 11th commandment upside down

1. "Thou shalt not speak ill of a fellow Republican."
2. "Thou shalt race to be first in line to throw a fellow Democrat under the bus."

[stockholmer]

88. dont you still have 11 once it is turned upside down?

:hide:

[Witt78]

93. The 11th Commandment

I thought the 11th Commandment was :

"Thou shalt not cross picket lines." =P

[SOS]

79. Republican David Vitter broke the law hiring prostitutes

As long as that guy is in the Senate, Anthony Weiner shouldn't remotely consider resigning.
And the fact that party jackals are turning on Weiner is revolting.

Sometimes it's really hard remaining a member of a party that folds faster than Superman on laundry day at every opportunity.

[LibDemAlways]

90. Hell, Clarence Thomas of pubic hair on a coke can fame is

sitting on the Supreme Court. This is a private matter to be sorted out by Weiner and his wife. I agree with you. No way should he resign.

[Witt78]

92. Dems have no balls?

Elected Democrats have plenty of "Balls"

They just don't serve you. The Democratic party is the left arm of the Elites, just as the GOP is their right arm.

BTW, while we are concentrated on this, The Egypt-Gaza border just got closed (In case you knew it was open for a time.)

The Department of Education is sending SWAT-Like teams after broke college kids. Spain is in Rebellion along with half the world. The Elites are stealing everything our children and elderly have...

Meanwhile the Dems are concentrated on a members, "Member"... Pathetic! Naive gullible dupes we are for the most part. PLEASE start paying attention to things that actually matter. Stop paying attention to the corporate medias distractions... It does not make any difference at all, whether Tiger Woods comes out to the links with a Gatorade or a Powerade. Yet somehow, MSNBC, CNN, and FOX have the power to define our water cooler talk for weeks at a time. (Plenty long enough for them to think up the next 2 week long distraction.)

Turn off your TV and get busy educating YOURSELF. Nobody is going to do it for you. (Especially the 6 corporations that own 95% of all media in our country, TV, Radio, Magazine, Newspaper, etc.)

[PCIntern]

110. delete - double post...

[PCIntern]

111. Ya know what's amazing about some of us?

We can concentrate on MORE THAN ONE THING AT A TIME!

I know I know...remarkable, isn't it?

[femrap]

94. I didn't know that he was recently married

to a woman who is an Aide to Hillary Clinton. His wife is three months pregnant.

Abort.

ETA: Do these dudes ever grow up and become responsible? He's 46 years old. Geez. I have puke in my throat. Excuse me.

[liberation]

95. Well, I for one am glad that Mrs. Pelosi put this ethics hearing on the table

it makes sense why she was clearing the space by putting all those GOP actual crimes off it.

At least it brings some sense to our elected Dems actions.

LOL

[sabrina 1]

97. Good post.

And the next time a Dem gets caught with his pants down, that IS what he should say. Treat them like the salivating pre-pubescent voyeurs that they are.

[JazzQuipster]

99. This mistake IS consequential...

...and it's not so much because of his misdeeds as it is the cover-up, the lies he told with a straight-face for days on end. His immature behavior tarnished the progressive message that he so effectively voiced, but he compounded that mistake by lying to his progressive supporters making them look like fools in their defense of him. And still, PCIntern expects Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to circle the wagons around Weiner. Why, what's the upside for progressives in continuing to defend Weiner? He created this mess and he's on his own. The longer he hangs on without resigning, the longer this story sucks all of the oxygen out of the news cycle. The slow drip of new, sordid details of the story has already begun. Weiner can end it by stepping down.

[EFerrari]

103. Baloney. The longer he fights back, the sooner the public will get over it.

It seems to be happening already.

And we can't expect Reid or Pelosi to defend him. They only seem to defend the other side and Wall Street.

Weiner should not step down. We don't need one more effective liberal to be destroyed by bullshit.

[JazzQuipster]

104. It's bullshit alright...

...but it's bullshit of his own doing and now he's a distraction and a liability. He should quit.

[EFerrari]

105. Right. He stalked himself and invaded his own privacy.

And of course, he controls the right wing media. Shame on him. Distracting from joblessness and three, no four, no five useless wars, more proposed tax cuts for the wealthy and the FCC screwing us three ways to Sunday. I'm sure the nation would be right on all of that without this distraction.

lol

Give me a break.

[JazzQuipster]

108. Oh, I forgot, (ahem) his Twitter account was hacked.

Here's the thing: the cover-up is always worse than the act itself.

I couldn't care less if politicians are having real or virtual affairs in their private lives as long as they are not hypocrites about it (ala David Vitter, Ted Haggard, etc.) and as long as they are prepared to deal honestly with the consequences of word getting out.

While Weiner at least isn't a hypocrite, he failed at the consequences part of getting caught. He should have gone before the cameras and said, yes I've made some mistakes in my private life that have hurt the people I love the most, yada, yada, yada. Maybe, just maybe, if he would have done that people would have said, at least he came clean, who among us hasn't made regrettable mistakes, etc. and in a few days the story would have died.

Instead he lied through his teeth denying it, blaming hackers and in the process let down progressive supporters who believed him and didn't think that he would lie to them. An adulterer, or in this case a virtual adulterer, can be forgiven by his supporters, but lying to them and causing some to go off on wild goose-chases in proving that his account was hacked is not so easily forgiven. And the lying part just gives more ammunition to the right wing media to clutch their pearls about how immoral and devious liberals are and have panel discussions about.

He needs to go.

[Erda]

101. I don't want to become too psycho-analytical but

People often jeopardize the way others see them when their self-image doesn't match their outward persona. I think Congressman Weiner grew up taking a lot of abuse because of his name, possibly even his physical appearance. Some of that abuse may have defined how he sees himself. Perhaps this might be an underlying reason for why he subconsciously has tried to destroy everything he has attained, even the loving relationship with his beautiful new wife.

Personal matters are just that -- Personal! Congressman Weiner is no worse than any of us. We each have our own things to work out -- why we're fat, why we can't hold a job, why we think we have to prove ourselves -- you name it!

The psyche is perfect and complex. It protects us from being hurt until we realize we have nothing to fear.

I find it best not to judge.

[Anakin Skywalker]

112. Well said! This is the fucking 21st century!

[MilesColtrane]

113. I see.

So he had to lie because of the evil, evil Democrats in Congress.


*facepalm*

[ooglymoogly]

114. He lied (stupidly) because he realized what a stupid thing he has done.

He lied (stupidly) because he was facing a life altering situation. He lied (stupidly) because a ton of bricks was about to fall on his head; because he realizes that most in government and many of the folks of this country are not living in the 21st century but in some imagined victoriana of sanctimonious sharks feeding in bloody waters.

As far as him resigning, that would be even stupider, irregardless of the pearl clutchers and bluedogs right up to the top, who are drooling over his departure so the lurches to the right will be less noticeable and the obscene feeding at the taxpayer funded trough less neon.

As for those on this site who are whimsically calling for a stoning; let he who has never done anything profoundly stupid cast the first stone.

What Anthony did harmed no one except those looking to be "harmed".

Unlike what certain pugs did and rode it out...Anthony did not break the law.

So Anthony if you are reading this, take the envious ridicule and ride it out.

I've seen you do stand up, so I know you have the wit to do it.

[ooglymoogly]

115. sorry wrong spot nt

[ooglymoogly]

116. My sentiments to a tee. Too late to Rec but can give a kick anyway.

[marmar]

117. That's why this country is doomed....We have the Crazy Party and the Cowardly Party.

nt

[Ramulux]

121. These threads defending Weiner are getting absurd

The dudes a scumbag, why the fuck does anyone care what happens to him?

[ooglymoogly]

125. Perhaps because many on this site have deeper and broader values,

and are not stunned by the frivolous and the meaningless.

But I do, like many others, get where you are coming from.

[Ramulux]

126. Really?

Did you read the transcripts of his chat logs? The guy is unstable, insanely egotistical, and obviously has serious mental issues. I dont understand why anyone is defending someone who has all those problems. There is also the whole thing with him lying to everyone over and over again for a week and giving legitimacy to Andrew Breitbart.

This isn't just a matter of personal matters being made public. This is a matter of it now becoming obvious that Anthony Weiner is a fucked up human being.

[ooglymoogly]

127. And yet through all that, he fights for liberal causes

One of the few we can't afford to lose. In someones eyes, every one of us is off our rocker.

[bertman]

124. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My sentiments exactly. KICK.

Too late to Recommend.