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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 03:03 AM
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Poll: Majority of New Yorkers think Rep. Weiner should not resign
Poll: Majority of New Yorkers think Rep. Weiner should not resign

A majority of New Yorkers do not want Rep. Anthony Weiner to resign his congressional seat, a new poll found.

According to the NY1-Marist poll, released Tuesday night, 51 percent of New York voters think Weiner (D-N.Y.) should remain in Congress. Meanwhile, 30 percent think he should step down, and 18 percent aren't sure.

The poll comes in the aftermath of Weiner's admission on Monday that he engaged in "inappropriate" correspondence with six women over the last three years, including sending a message from his Twitter account to a woman of a photo of his waist area clad in underwear.

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The same NY1-Marist poll found that 61 percent of New Yorkers think Weiner did something unethical, while 13 percent think he did nothing wrong. Thirteen percent believe Weiner did something illegal, and 14 percent are unsure whether he did something wrong or illegal.

The poll found 56 percent of New Yorkers do not want Weiner to run for mayor in light of the scandal, while 25 percent think he should and 19 percent are unsure. Weiner ran for mayor in 2005 and appeared to be gearing up for another run in 2013.


When the media finds the next distraction (last week it was saturation coverage of DSK, just in case people forgot)this story will fade into the background. UNLESS Democrats work to drive him out.

The people, even at the height of this non-scandal generated by the media working together with Andrew Breitbart, as they always do when he goes after Democrats, want their Congressman to stay.

The sad thing is that the Politicians don't care what the people want. They are far more worried about their own careers.

If they drive him out against the wishes of his contituents, I believe they will pay a price at the polls for that.

NYers are pretty practical about human failures. He need not have worried about them.

If Nancy Pelosi asks him to resign, then she must ask Vitter to resign.

As Dana Millbank said today 'if it was about the lying, there would only be about two dozen members of Congress left'.

I don't like what he did. But I don't like what a lot of politicians do, especially on the issues.

I hope he listens to the people, as Rangel did, and ignores the politicians who have only their own interests in mind.

I will not be distracted from the fact that the real bad guy in all of this is Andrew Breitbart.

Or from the fact that the real story that the media should have been covering, was the Clarence Thomas story.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 04:44 AM
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1. This nation is in crisis.
Most of it is because of politicians are doing the bidding of the corporations and the wealthy at our expense. It is far more important that Representative Weiner remain in office than risk adding another poor corporatist politician to replace him.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:55 AM
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7. +1+1+1+1. n/t
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 11:14 AM
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8. Yes, and if his constituents want him there,
that's what should matter
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 04:52 AM
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2. In NY nearly naked underwear photos adorn, bus', bill boards & subways..
as the regular course of business. Calvin Klein & Tommy Hillfinger ads can be seen all over the place much more racier than Weiner's.
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LuvNewcastle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:15 AM
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3. The other Democratic pols should
stay out of this. If he did anything illegal, it certainly wasn't a serious crime. It looks like the people in his district love him, and those are the people he has to please. I'd surely take him over just about anyone else to represent my district.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:35 AM
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4. Yes but the Democratic Vapors Cannibal Brigade has spoken.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:43 AM
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5. And that's one of the reasons there's so much pressure on Weiner to resign.
It appears that he has the support of his constituents and the republicans really want and need that seat. If his constituents won't turn him out, then getting Weiner to resign will get the same result.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 12:04 PM
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9. It's not just Republicans. Democrats
who think this could be used by Republicans in the election, want him to go. As if they could, when Democrats have Vitter and Craig and Ensign and so many more.

But that's their excuse. We need to call them and let them know they should stay out of the business of NY. And then get some spine and tell Repubs if they even dare to try to use this, expect to Vitter ads all over the country.

So sick of them letting Repubs call the shots.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:54 AM
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6. There ya go. k and r nt
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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 12:39 PM
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10. I saw this clip from the Daily Show last night
Edited on Thu Jun-09-11 12:39 PM by sasha031
I found it endearing, an older constituent protecting Weiner. The more the media attacks this man the angrier they will become.
clip is at the end of article.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/09/jon-stewart-weiner-daily-show-sext_n_873771.html
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 03:16 PM
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11. Aw, thank you for that.
I agree, the more he is attacked, people have a way of not liking to see someone persecuted, especially for what is a moral issue.

I think the polls will continue over time to be in his favor.

Another poll today, shows a different result, but support will grow as time passes, we've seen this every time the media conducts a witch hunt against anyone.

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sasha031 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 03:43 PM
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12. wasn't that adorable? she yells 'Anthony get behind the door!'
and he listened to her. Seems like Anthony has a personal relationship with his constituents.
I hope he gets the help he needs, there is something going on internally that probably has nothing to do with sex or lack there of.

He will be the better for it once he reaches the other side.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:07 PM
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13. Yes, it was. And he should talk to someone about
the problem. Everyone has something they need help with sometime in their lives. Ordinary people understand these things. The polticians in DC though are way, way out of touch with the voters. I remember when they would not lift a finger to help Rangel and Obama even advised him to go. I guess the party thought that if even the president was telling him to go, he was finished. But the opposite was true. People did not like the Party's betrayal of him and they understood a human failing and he stayed in the race and won.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:11 PM
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14. K&R.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:12 PM
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15. Stale.. that poll was done pre-weiner photo..
So if they redo that poll tomorrow and 51% say he should resign then should he resign?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 03:13 AM
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17. Already another poll out. And he's doing slightly better already.
NYers won't faint at the sight of penis. And they are sensible enough to know who the real bad guys are here. They don't like witch hunts, they like sex and don't think it's a sin, they will not reach for the smelling salts at the sight of a body part, they've seen plenty of them.

In fact, those photos might make him even more popular with younger voters, and even older ones.

He's a great Congressman and has done a lot for his constituents, and unlike some people in this party, they turn their backs on their friends so easily, especially when they know he has been targeted by one of the most vile, reprehensible specimens of human life.

I expect the polls to keep going up, although his numbers are good now and with his constituents saying the do NOT want him to quit, he'll be fine.

This party better get its act together,. IT's getting a reputation of not being for the people, of betraying its most loyal supporters, of consistently caving to Republicans and their corporate funded thugs. Anad if they would betray so quickly a great Congressman like Weiner, someone like Van Jones, Shirley Sherrod, Juan Carlos Vera and ACORN who proably did more to help them get elected than anyone, all targets of that scumbag, Breitbart, how can we the people, trust them?

Weiner has the Clintons behind him also. I'm sure he and his wife are getting advice from them also.

what a tempest in a teapot. It's embarrassing to see what gets people riled up these days. War and Torture, boring, but some guy had cyber sex and the whole country is supposed to collectively pass out from the shock.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 05:55 AM
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19. +1000!
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 06:23 AM
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20. Is there no level of perversion, lewdness, lying or unethical conduct...
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 06:23 AM by DCBob
that would convince you and the other weiner-lovers that he needs to resign?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 11:15 AM
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22. Only when a person's private sex life, and all the variations
of lewdness people engage in that we have no right to even know about, regarding sex, becomes a 'sin' or 'illegal'.

The individuals who, imo, should be condemned here are those who engaged in peering in through the virtual window of the women and of Weiner, whose personal sex lives were none of their business.

Do you condemn all people who have sex, people who engage in S&M, eg? Personally I don't care what others do in their personal sex lives so long as they are not breaking laws and are adults. Should all people whose sexual behavior you consider to be 'lewd' quit their jobs? The far right, eg, believe gay sex to be a sin and worse than lewd.

Recently there was a case where two college students were arrested and tried for spying on a gay student, filming him while engaged in sex and putting online. Are you saying it was the gay student who was wrong?

How much invasion of a person's privacy will it take to convince you and others calling for the Congressman to quit, will it take before you realize that some things are just more reprehensible than a few adults engaging in cyber sex and start calling for the condemnation of those who invaded the privacy of those adults and then used it as a political tool?

As far as the 'lying', when someone is rudely asked about their personal sex life they have the right to lie, to say nothing, to punch the moron who dared to ask, to walk away, maybe even to sue that individual. A sex lie is something that happens when a person's right to privacy has been invaded because they live in a society where they are made to feel ashamed of having sex.

Good for you for taking us even further down the road of living by the prudish standards of the far right where a grown man or woman is treated like a pariah for engaging in the perfectly natural behavior of sexual activity. Are you shocked at the photos? Never saw a penis before? The sex? Didn't know people engage in cyber sex etc without our permission?

I don't know what the crime is here. To me the crime is the disgusting notion that spying on people in their own 'bedrooms' as it were, has now become acceptable. What next? Will it be okay for Breitbart to bring a camera to someone's home and film them through their windows?

I don't like witch hunters. And that's the real story here. A man was the target of a witch hunt and the witch hunters knew that if they could just 'prove' he was 'having sex' online, the media, rather than tell him there is no story here, most people have sex, would react the same way as the Salem trial judges. How sad is it that we still live in such an atmosphere, and how frightening.

Sorry I can't share your outrage, but his sex life is not my business, nor is yours or anyone else's. My outrage is reserved for the despicable, disgusting, reprehensible, hateful behavior of the far right who were on a mission to destroy yet another life, by any means possible, and I will not help them with that.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:25 PM
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23. Not outraged, I just think he should resign.
he is damaged goods.. politically.
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:54 PM
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25. Progressives are in denial. Weiner is royally damaging the very principles
that progressives claim they care about. It is clear to anyone that will pull the hands from their ears that Weiner is a self absorbed person, the type that would be a firebrand republican if he lived in the deep south. One only need to examine what Weiner did to first get elected to a public office to get a measure of Weiner's moral character and adherence to high principles. It is fitting that progressives bring up Vitter, because if by chance Weiner had been born in Louisiana, this poster is confident that he would be a republican spewing any shit that comes to mind to stay elected.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 05:03 PM
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26. Yeah, I agree with that. I used to like Weiner.. I thought he was POTUS material at one point..
I loved his agressive style and pointed attacks on the GOP but now all that seems meaningless. He's a charlatan, a scammer and a pervert... not a great combination for a congressman.
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unionworks Donating Member (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 09:10 AM
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21. Agree Totally
We gave up on healthcare, tax cuts for the rich, and the patriot act. I'm tired of seeing my party cave in to these scum. Time to give them a taste of what they have coming next year!!!
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 04:47 PM
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24. The last poll that I saw had 46% of his constituents saying that Weiner
should resign. That was before the hard boner photo hit the airwaves. Next week will surely bring more unpleasant disclosures. Many on DU are in denial. A reality is that any man that does two way communication with women and sends pictures of a hard penis, likely has slept with some of them. Women that have more damaging information are surely lawyering up. As soon as the right-wing gets wind of them, the final nail will be put in Weiner's coffin, my stout hope is that other democrats stay clear of Weiner as he goes up in flames.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 05:34 PM
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27. That's days ago. Lots of new polls since then. Over 56%
Edited on Fri Jun-10-11 05:35 PM by sabrina 1
want him to stay in the most recent one I saw after the photo. Seems to have made him MORE popular. Why on earth should a photo of penis bother anyone on the left for god's sake?

NYers are not going to be bothered by that at all. So he's safe if he wants to run again. And the polls will only increase the more the witch hunt continues. Clinton should have taught them that.


And shame on the Dems for joining the enemy and demanding he resign. What did he do that should cause him to have to quit? If cyber sex is cause for quitting your job, an awful lot of people need to go.

And since when did the left develop these sensibilities about sex? I am NOT a Republican because I do not like their ideologies. Now I am with a party that is following their lead instead of challenging them.

So sick of it all, frankly. I would dearly love to belong to a party that stands for something rather than cave everytime scum like Breitbart says 'jump, liberal fools'.
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MikeMc Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:50 PM
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16. Weiner vs Thomas!! Weiner vs Thomas!! (etc.) NT.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-10-11 05:50 AM
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18. K&R!
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