Radiation from Japan causing severe weather in US?

[PhillySane]

Just kind of dawned on me today. Then I found this:

http://sdai-tech1.blogspot.com/2011/04/241-tornados-in-72-hours-real-cause.html

[FBaggins]

1. Only where it interacts with the chemtrails n/t

[Abq_Sarah]

19. Yep.

[SpiralHawk]

27. And is activated by the Massive Solar Eruptions taking place

Started Tuesday, peaking just now...


The size of the prominence is thought to be at least 75 times the size of Earth. Our Jason Major created a graphic showing the size comparison. Earth is the little teeny tiny blue circle in the top left corner

[TheWraith]

34. You beat me to that response. Seriously, what the fuck was the author of this shit high on?

This is the best 200-proof woowoo pseudoscientific nonsense I've seen since the guy who claimed that the Twin Towers were brought down by nukes.

[Canuckistanian]

2. "Contact Tech 1 and tell him hell froze over. Tech 1 will know what to do"

This article is hilarious! Where did you find this?

[PhillySane]

3. da google misheen

[northoftheborder]

4. Is this a knowledgeable source?

[PhillySane]

5. don't really know

[Maru Kitteh]

39. Really? Nuclear tornadoes didn't tip you off?

[GKirk]

6. Is that link real science or

pseudo science?

[MilesColtrane]

7. "Radiation always speeds things up"

"Radiation is energy. A radioactive particle has a potent quotient of energy it releases. When enough of them gather in the atmosphere, it promotes condensation."

He ain't exactly Mr. Science, is he?

LOL

[MadHound]

8. Umm, no

This is simply unscientific woo. He tries to dress it up as something scientific, but fails, badly.

[snooper2]

47. She sings okay though

http://www.youtube.com/user/SDAITech1#p/f/4/zc41xnsZtTs

[Swede]

9. Shouldn't this be in the science forum?

:rofl:

[PhillySane]

10. don't know

[Confusious]

12. No, the 9/11 forum with the rest of the woo. nt

[SidDithers]

33. Bad, bad Swede...

:spank:

Sid

[wtbymark]

11. it's a plausable theory...but...

1) I-131 turns to stablized xenon in 4 half lives (32days)
2) the Iodide they used to seed clouds was stable (not radioactive) and had little effect
3) where's the data to back this up. How high and what were the levels of concentrations (and concentrations of what isotope). I know a few scientists that would love to see this data
4) there was a spike in monitoring when the detonation (not deflagation) of fuel pool 3 happened, but the isotopes we were seeing were longer lasting Americium, Cesium and only dairy reconstitutions of I-131 were found on the west coast (as in where the cows had to eat the grass and concentrate the I-131 in milk before it was detectable)

show me the data

[PhillySane]

15. well this person

goes into the dairy situation too, describes the half life and all that, but points out that we are being hit with new doses everyday and no one really knows how much is coming out of there anyway.
I don't pretend to know anything about this stuff, but it is interesting to hear someone ask these kinds of questions because no one else really is.

[Codeine]

23. No it's not a plausible theory.

It's full-on woowoo nonsense. Full frontal woowoo.

[PhillySane]

24. Codeine

and any others who say this. Just curious. How do you know? Do you have a degree in particle physics?

[slutticus]

32. This has nothing to do with particle physics

This is simple thermodynamics. The mechanism of cloud seeding with Iodine has NOTHING to do with radioactivity. Type "nucleation" into your google search bar and have a read.

In any case, beta radiation cannot add mass to water molecules.

[snooper2]

41. ROFL

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[aquart]

13. The other way around.

The extremes of climate change on earth's processes caused the disaster at the ill-planned Daiichi reactors.

[PhillySane]

16. possibly

[MilesColtrane]

17. Climate change produces earthquakes?

[PhillySane]

20. No, maybe not, but

the severe tsunami that hit the area may have been heightened by rising ocean levels, maybe.

[MilesColtrane]

26. Sea levels have risen 8 inches since 1900.

Without that additional water the tsunami that hit the reactors at Fukushima would have been 44 feet and 4 inches high.

I don't see that making any difference at all.

[PhillySane]

28. It's not just 8 inches

you would have to calculate 8 inches times the ocean mass that was moved. Can you do that?

[MilesColtrane]

36. An extra 8 inches of water on top of 44' 4" adds .0148 to the initial wave.

That's an addition of less than one and a half percent.

As I said before, it would not have made any difference as far as the reactors at Fukushima were concerned.

Any more obvious questions?

[MilesColtrane]

14. The blogger's other fine work:

http://sdai-tech1.blogspot.com/2010/08/shadow-president-and-shadow-government.html

(But, back on subject, somebody should tell him that, at best, cloud seeding produces precipitation from existing clouds, not tornadoes.)

[PhillySane]

18. Arthur C. Clarke and Carl Sagan

wrote some fine fiction as well

[PhillySane]

21. Its actually not the first

theory I heard related to this. Others were just too bizarre to post. Atmospheric conditions could possibly be altered. Its worth looking into. We've never had a nuclear disaster of this particular sort before.

[Codeine]

25. Holy crap. That dude is a serious loon. nt

[snooper2]

45. dudette

http://www.youtube.com/user/SDAITech1#p/f/4/zc41xnsZtTs

[snooper2]

44. See, always thinking men come up with this crap...

Check out the SDAITech1's youtube channel :P

Something wrong about singing through your nose :rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/user/SDAITech1#p/f/0/DUELPLHWfW0

[MilesColtrane]

52. oh my

[boppers]

22. Ooh! Time travel!

http://sdai-tech1.blogspot.com/2004/12/time-travel.html

Madness at its finest.

[madrchsod]

29. no.........

[PhillySane]

30. Just curious

are those mermaids lounging on octopus there next to Mr. Natural?

[slutticus]

31. ROFL

"The I-131 is emitting radiation that condenses these water gases by adding energy to the nearby water molecules. This energy transfer adds weight to these water molecules. When this happens in the upper atmosphere the water condenses into ice crystals and the polarity of these condensed (cold) positively charged nuclei collide with lower atmospheric negatively expanded (warm) charged nuclei and induce an energy vortex - a tornado."


Holy shit that's awesome. I'm wiping away tears. Thanks for this link, i needed a pick me up today.

[Maru Kitteh]

38. Whaaa? You mean you don't believe in nuclear Godzilla tornadoes?

I have a photograph. What do you say now?

[dionysus]

35. LOL

:spray:

[petronius]

37. "Alex, I'll take 'People Who Know Even Less About Weather & Climate Than

Joe Barton And Jim Inhofe' for $1000, please!"

[ensho]

40. they call radiation HOT for a reason

because it is

[Maru Kitteh]

50. So you think the nuclear accident is making the east coast of our continent HOT?

Is that what you're saying? Or are you joking? It's so hard to tell here sometimes.

[PhillySane]

51. HMMM

Warm moist air meeting cool dry air...

[PhillySane]

42. I'm not a scientist

so I have no idea if this person is anywhere close, but, the theory goes like this:

Huge radiation cloud sweeping over North America from Fukashima plant

Cloud contains high rate of I-131

I-131 has been used for cloud seeding

Build up of moisture in atmosphere due to high rate of I-131

From Wikipedia:
"This is mostly due to the unique geography of the continent. North America is a large continent that extends from the tropics north into arctic areas, and has no major east-west mountain range to block air flow between these two areas. In the middle latitudes, where most tornadoes of the world occur, the Rocky Mountains block moisture and buckle the atmospheric flow, forcing drier air at mid-levels of the troposphere due to downsloped winds, and causing the formation of a low pressure area downwind to the east of the mountains. Increased westerly flow off the Rockies force the formation of a dry line when the flow aloft is strong,<62> while the Gulf of Mexico fuels abundant low-level moisture in the southerly flow to its east. This unique topography allows for frequent collisions of warm and cold air, the conditions that breed strong, long-lived storms throughout the year."

So his theory is, and who knows, the additional moisture breeds more and stronger tornadoes that can happen anywhere in the US, not just tornado alley. (California saw a string of tornadoes just as this cloud first hit the US)

it's just a theory, as all science is at first.

[NeedleCast]

46. it is Not a Theory

A scientific theory is a hypothesis that has been rigorously tested and has passed those tests again in again.

This is not that. This is woo.

[ProfessorGAC]

48. Not Sure It's Woo, But I Agree It's Not A Theory

It's only a hypothesis based, at least in large part, on on accumulation of knowledge regarding the climate and atmosphere.

It clearly isn't tested, but is testable, but obviously only over a long period of time.

So, i completely agree that this hasn't passed muster to be called a theory, but it is a reasonable enough hypothesis to avoid the "woo" label.
GAC

[PhillySane]

49. Okay

its a guess. speculation.

"Galileo's championing of Copernicanism was controversial within his lifetime, when a large majority of philosophers and astronomers still subscribed to the geocentric view that the Earth is at the centre of the universe. After 1610, when he began publicly supporting the heliocentric view, which placed the Sun at the centre of the universe, he met with bitter opposition from some philosophers and clerics, and two of the latter eventually denounced him to the Roman Inquisition early in 1615."

The Sun is the center of the Universe. Such Woo.

[NeedleCast]

43. No