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erodriguez Donating Member (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:41 PM
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30 years from now. I will be a senior.
However, I do not expect to be retired. I do notexpect to have health insurance. I do not expect to have much of pension.


This is because my country elects people who do not represent me.

That is because my elected leaders listen to those with much more wealth than me.

That is because my "Democratic" president will Insist on austerity and cutting benefits.

All the while people cheer and say "I got this!"
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 11:42 PM
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1. This is why it is time for you and me
to take to the streets... and go into MOVEMENT politics.

:hi: we will hit that in twenty
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beanwire Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:04 AM
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2. What's a senior?
Is it the lady/guy greeting at walmart or a deserved individual pursuing earlier set goals? I'm in the same boat and maybe I'll try for the early out of cancer or expect my retirement plans will be out of my control and invest in some uncontrollable dream.

But do we try to get an ear bent in our general direction?

Holding a sign and pasting a bumper stick is one thing, it states a belief, it catches the eye. Discussion breeds possibilities that can stay in the mind. Don't say "I got this" say "I want to talk about this" and know who you're talking to. Don't spout platitudes, they're cheaper than platforms.

Your personal beliefs are worthless if they only hold applicable to a group, not the all, and maybe there are groups in the U.S. of A. that need to remember that if they can embezzle and steal from the rest of us, and possibly we should do more and fight more to make the law treat them the same as the rest of us.

We can't blame the country if we won't take the reins to our own fights and if you ever thought for a minute since you became working age that the status quo would be so forever, I'm sorry, that's called "not paying attention." What is a hot button now will not be the same for us, give me a thirty year projection and the effects thirty years beyond that and we'll talk about the future and what we don't know it holds. I'm your approximate age and this isn't about me-personally, this is about my children, and what they can blunder into, the same way I'm blundering into the issues of my parents (that they didn't know were coming).
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 12:26 AM
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3. Instead of blaming politicians
why don't you go out and make your own destiny over the next thirty years? Who is president should have very little impact on your own life.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 01:44 AM
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4. What an utter crock.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:53 AM
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7. tell us how!
teach us your ways and guide the way ....

:eyes:

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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 09:24 AM
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10. You can start with contributing to a 401k and IRA
so you can build your own retirement. The OP has 30 years to build it up. Is the OP counting on social security for retirement? You can buy a home so that in 30 years it's paid off and you don't have a mortgage, making retirement easier.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 05:44 PM
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11. sure, in a perfect world where people have money to save!
Edited on Fri Jul-08-11 05:45 PM by shireen
Too many people live paycheck to paycheck, and can barely save for an emergency fund. Cost of living has gone up considerably lately.
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 06:00 AM
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8. Yeah! Horatio Alger did it! So can you!
Blah, blah, stupid fucking blah blah lie.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 01:53 AM
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5. I can only say this as someone who is "senior" now...
Work. Work to change things, not only for yourself, but for all. My generation thought we could make a difference. In the end, I don't know if we did or not.

Care about others, and maybe everything will end up ok. That's about the only advice I can offer. If nothing else, you will know that you did what you could.

An old hippie wrote this.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 02:06 AM
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6. That's what I thought 30 years ago.
I'll be a senior soon but I anticipated that Social Security, 401K plans etc. wouldn't be there to prop me up when I am forced to retire.
Looks like I won't be far wrong.

I've never put too much trust in the future because it has a tendency to kick you around a lot more than you expect.

I have some savings but not as much as I need to be secure and I've never lived a flamboyant lifestyle.

I have one bit of advice for you younger-than-mes out there:
When they feed you soylent green, take a good hard look at the ingredient list.



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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 06:12 AM
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9. Here read this and I hope it helps
http://www.aflcio.org/joinaunion/why/

Union members earn better wages and benefits than workers who aren’t union members. On average, union workers’ wages are 30 percent higher than their nonunion counterparts. While only 14 percent of nonunion workers have guaranteed pensions, fully 68 percent of union workers do. More than 97 percent of union workers have jobs that provide health insurance benefits, but only 85 percent of nonunion workers do. Unions help employers create a more stable, productive workforce—where workers have a say in improving their jobs.




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