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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:11 AM
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Who runs a company without knowing what goes on in the company
Take a wild guess.

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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:13 AM
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1. Ronald Reagan
I don't recall
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:13 AM
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2. Apparently it happens all the time: Ken Lay, Jeff Skilling, and so on
From the sound of these guys, money just falls out of the sky into their pockets; nobody knows why, and when a good thing is happening, it's wisest not to look too closely. Look, is this little session going to be over soon? I've got a 1 p.m. tee time, and I hate to keep the other robber barons waiting. It means the first round's on me, see.
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:16 AM
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5. So far so good
what do they have in common what our recent events of phone hacking?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:14 AM
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3. Pretty much every overpaid CEO in existence. Apparently, that's what they get paid for-
not knowing what is going on.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:16 AM
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8. Why can't I get a job like that?
I don't know what's going on most of the time and I'm doing it gratis...
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:15 AM
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4. Does your CEO know what you are up to?
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:17 AM
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9. He called in to say he was playing golf today
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 10:19 AM by Hutzpa
So we are all having la-la-la day, a mini vac.

:P
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:21 AM
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11. This is in reference to million dollar under the table payouts.
Murdoch is claiming that this isn't the kind of information he requires his editors to share with him (or anyone)
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:16 AM
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6. A wingnut.
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:16 AM
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7. W
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:20 AM
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10. My boss
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:22 AM
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12. He's playing dumb. I don't buy the bullshit.
James is obnoxious too.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:24 AM
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13. The better question is why give the rogues who got you in trouble a huge severance?
Murdoch did that so she wouldn't implicate him.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:29 AM
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14. I'm campaigning for the headline: Too Big To Know
wha'd'ya think?

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:30 AM
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15. Donald Rumsfeld, George W. Bush.
nt
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:30 AM
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16. Not Rupert -- I'm not buying his "befuddled old man" man act for an instant
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 10:38 AM by rocktivity


He's not the hands-off, laissez faire type -- he knows damn well where every cent he's ever earned has ended up. Nor is he the helpless type -- note how he doesn't hesitate to interrupt even his own son!

:headbang:
rocktivity
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:34 AM
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19. I agree, especially considering the nature of his business
and its effects on business and politics.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:33 AM
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17. Mr. Carlson?
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:34 AM
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18. Anybody who runs a company of more than one person frankly
I am no fan of the obvious reference here, but such standards are asinine. No boss knows everything his employees do, just like no parent knows everything his kids do. The bigger the boss, the bigger the areas of which he can be ignorant. The owner of a huge conglomerate not only can but almost undoubtedly will be entirely ignorant of the policies, actions and even existence of whole departments in a specific subsidiary. I once worked for a company much smaller than NewsCorp, about 1/16th the size but still large at $2B. I'm a middle management hack, but I was dealing with fairly significant dollars. Met the CEO once and presented my latest 8 month long project - which saved the company about $800k annually by reformulating a plastic used in one of our products. That's savings - we spent about $3M on the commodity. His response? "That's great - to be honest I saw the way plastics were going up in price over the last year or two but I never really looked into it for us because I didn't think we bought any"

That's the employed (not the owner who answers to no-one) head of a company a small fraction the size of Murdoch's talking about a seven-figure expenditure in global commodities, not a by-definition covert activity. And he was successful, and quite competent. He trusted his subordinates to handle the details of a fairly minor activity and concentrated on the big numbers (our #1 spend commodity was about $75 million - I am fairly confident he knew about that one), and they did so. Is Murdoch being honest? Probably not IMO. Did he know that underhanded even illegal data-gathering activities were sanctioned at his papers? Almost certainly. He most definitely created the corporate culture that encouraged it (and that's the only role the owner of so large a company normally has on day to day operations). But is it not just possible but inevitable that all large companies or organizations do things that the CEO/Owner does not know about? Absoluitely - from Greenpeace to Blackwater (as was) and everywhere in between.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:40 AM
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22. This is why company culture and who is hired makes a difference.
It's impossible for a CEO to know everything, yes.

However, the CEO sets the company culture and hires people he/she is comfortable with overseeing various departments. I think it's exceedingly clear what kinds of attitudes and behaviors Murdoch found acceptable in his company.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:37 AM
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20. All of them -- that's why they send stupid memos that have no connection to reality, are able to cut
people without giving a shit, and make the big bucks.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:38 AM
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21. The majority of CEOs. While there are, no doubt, some
who take an active interest in the details, most are too busy counting their money and enjoying their perks to give a shit.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:41 AM
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23. Beyond a certain size, probably every CEO.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-11 10:41 AM by Hosnon
Micro-managing is not a good business practice.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-11 10:49 AM
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24. A lot, thanks to allowing all the mass merges that have been allowed. /nt
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