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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:32 AM
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Democratic politics in a nutshell by Glenn Greenwald

Democratic politics in a nutshell
By Glenn Greenwald
July 31, 2011

(1) Three days ago, Democratic Rep. John Conyers, appearing at a meeting of the Out of Poverty caucus, said: "The Republicans -- Speaker Boehner or Majority Leader Cantor -- did not call for Social Security cuts in the budget deal. The President of the United States called for that" (video here, at 1:30);

(2) The reported deal on the debt ceiling is so completely one-sided -- brutal domestic cuts with no tax increases on the rich and the likelihood of serious entitlement cuts in six months with a "Super Congressional" deficit commission -- that even Howard Kurtz was able to observe: "If there are $3 trillion in cuts and no tax hikes, Obama will have to explain how it is that the Republicans got 98 pct. of what they wanted," while Grover Norquist, the Right of the Right on such matters, happily proclaimed: "Sounds like a budget deal with real savings and no tax hikes is a go."

(3) The same White House behavior shaping the debt deal -- full embrace of GOP policies and (in the case of Social Security cuts) going beyond that -- has been evident in most policy realms from the start. It first manifested in the context of Obama's adoption of the Bush/Cheney approach to the war on civil liberties and Terrorism, which is why civil libertarians were the first to object so vocally and continuously to the Obama presidency, culminating in this amazing event from mid-2010: "Speaking at a conference of liberal activists Wednesday morning, ACLU Executive Director Anthony Romero didn't mince his words about the administration's handling of civil liberties issues. 'I'm going to start provocatively . . . I'm disgusted with this president,' Romero told the America's Future Now breakout session."

In other words, a slew of millionaire politicians who spent the last decade exploding the national debt with Endless War, a sprawling Surveillance State, and tax cuts for the rich are now imposing extreme suffering on the already-suffering ordinary citizenry, all at the direction of their plutocratic overlords, who are prospering more than ever and will sacrifice virtually nothing under this deal (despite their responsibility for the 2008 financial collapse that continues to spawn economic misery). And all of this will be justified by these politicians and their millionaire media mouthpieces with the obscenely deceitful slogans of "shared sacrifice" and "balanced debt reduction" -- two of the most odiously Orwellian phrases since "Look Forward, not Backward" and "2009 Nobel Peace Prize laureate".

Read the full article at:

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/democratic_party/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2011/07/31/democrats
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:42 AM
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1. "Shared sacrifice." What a joke that notion was.
Wait until this "commission" gets through gutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The day Alan Simpson was appointed as cochair of the Catfood Commission was the day we were told what was coming. And here it comes.
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:47 AM
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2. That this would be a Republican-lite Administration became clear pretty quickly
Even before the oath of office.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 12:05 PM
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5. During his Cabinet appointments, actually...
n/t
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 02:30 PM
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7. Some of us saw it even before then.
"It's just one prayer"
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:54 AM
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10. nothing "lite" about it
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:28 AM
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13. exactly; Obama is to the right of many moderate rethugs
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:51 AM
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14. I'd say he's Repub-lite WRT GLBT rights
he MOSTLY thinks we should be equal, and is "evolving". Although, the Republican party is evolving on that, too.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:04 PM
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:49 AM
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3. Yikes! Too much truth here! Everyone please unrec so the truth will go away!
nt
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 11:54 AM
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4. So if the 3T are cuts to the military industrial complex, the tea party won?
Fascinating.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 12:31 PM
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6. What 3 trillion dollars in cuts to the military budget are you writing about? Links please!
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:56 AM
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11. Half of the proposed cuts are defense and DHS. Not that I expect you to acknowledge it. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-11 05:05 PM
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stockholmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 08:22 AM
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23. you're simply dead wrong about so-called defence cuts, not that I expect you to acknowledge it
Edited on Wed Aug-03-11 08:28 AM by stockholmer
http://news.firedoglake.com/2011/08/02/defense-cuts-in-debt-limit-deal-less-than-meets-the-eye/



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So instead of $350 billion cutting the Pentagon in the first round, you have $350 billion cutting “security.” And remember, the President’s budget already planned for $400 billion in cuts to the Pentagon budget over the next ten years. So defense did at least $50 billion better than expectations.

“This is a good deal for defense when you probe under the numbers,” said Lawrence Korb, a defense expert at the Center for American Progress, a left-leaning research center. “It’s better than what the Defense Department was expecting.” <...>

Korb, who studies defense budgets, said Congress could cut the defense baseline budget by $100 billion annually over the next decade and still spend more than it did during the height of the Cold War, adjusted for inflation. He noted that the baseline defense budget has climbed every year for 13 years, a record increase.

As William Hartung writes, the first-stage proposal would cut Pentagon budgets by less than 1%. Not to mention the fact that these kinds of cuts could be shifted to personnel in the form of health care and pensions for active duty military, not the weapons of war.


O-ho, but you say, the trigger of automatic cuts is very heavy on the Pentagon – up to $600 billion, to be exact. And unlike the “security” dodge, those cuts fall directly on DoD and any defense-related programs at agencies like the Department of Energy. But of course, that is a trigger that may not ever fire.

There’s plenty of reason to believe that the parties will not be able to come together in a SuperCongress joint committee to arrive at recommendations for deficit reduction that would stave off the trigger. There’s reason to believe that Republicans would prefer the trigger to tax hikes, and that Democrats would prefer the trigger to cuts to Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. There’s reason to believe that joint committees like this don’t really work very well, historically.


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http://my.firedoglake.com/codepink/2011/08/02/enormous-cuts-in-military-spending-read-the-fine-print/


Enormous Cuts in Military Spending? Read the Fine Print

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First, the cuts for 2012 are virtually nil. Security spending—which includes the Pentagon, State Department, Homeland Security, part of Veterans Affairs and intelligence spending—will be capped at $684 billion in 2012, a decline of merely $5 billion (less than 1 percent) from this year.



Yes, there are potentially far more drastic cuts down the road. In addition to the first $1 trillion in cuts over the next decade, a bipartisan Congressional committee must come up with an additional $1.5 trillion cuts by November — or trigger an automatic across-the-board reduction of $1.2 trillion starting in 2013, half of which would be expected to come from military spending.



However, expect this threat of deep military cuts – if cutting defense by 3 percent a year can be called “deep” when it has grown at a rate of 9 percent over the last decade – to be used as a bargaining chip by Democrats to extract concessions on tax increases from Republicans; don’t hold your breath expecting them to actually materialize. And with House Republicans already pledging to “fight on behalf of our Armed Forces,” by which they mean the military-industrial complex, don’t expect Democrats to put up much of a fight. Even were Obama so inclined, the idea that he will expend political capital on cutting military spending even as he expands the war on terror in Libya, Yemen and Somalia is doubtful, especially with an election looming.



But let’s put aside cynicism and accept the Obama administration at its word. Let’s assume the White House and Congress agree to cut military spending by $350 billion a year over 10 years. While the numbers may sound impressive out of context, that’s like draining an Olympic-sized pool with a glass from your kitchen: you’re going to be at it for awhile. The military budget has ballooned so much over the last decade that even if it was cut in half tomorrow the U.S. would still spend more than it did in 2001.



Indeed, the Obama administration’s proposed military budget for 2012 – the baseline from which future cuts are projected – is at its “highest level since World War II,” according to the non-partisan Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, “surpassing the Cold War peak” set by Ronald Reagan and a Democratic House of Representatives in 1985. Even if, instead of over a decade, the whole, entirely-subject-to-change $350 billion was cut from the defense budget in one fiscal year alone, the U.S. would still lead the globe in military spending, devoting twice as much to guns and bombs as its closest and much more populous rival, China. And that’s without factoring in the cost of any new wars.


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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 11:28 AM
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27. Only IF Congress does not make other cuts instead..
Did you conveniently forget that aspect of the deal?
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-11 05:05 PM
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8. Kick
nt
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 12:51 AM
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9. excellent piece.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 01:04 AM
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12. Politically clueless
"Obama will have to explain how it is that the Republicans got 98 pct. of what they wanted"

No he doesn't, that's a capaign ad that writes itself.

Boehner is already running around making the 98 percent claim.

Obama cut the deficit and Republicans can't argue with that.

Ezra Klein

<...>

Confused? That seems to be the point. Boehner is misleading his members to make them think taxes are impossible under this deal. But make no mistake: The Joint Committee could raise taxes in any number of ways. It could close loopholes and cap tax expenditures. It could impose a value-added tax, or even a tax on carbon. The Congressional Budget Office would score all of this as reducing the deficit under a current-law baseline. The only thing that wouldn’t reduce the deficit is going after part of the Bush tax cuts. That means they’re likely to go untouched in this deal.

That’s actually good news for...people who want to raise taxes. The Bush tax cuts will still be set to expire in 2012, which means that if Democrats get some revenue as part of this deal, they’ll be able to get more revenue if Congress gridlocks over the Bush tax cuts in 2012.

<...>

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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:53 AM
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16. Awww... have you and Glenn broken up again?
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 12:04 AM
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20. Unbelievable.

It's not going to do any of those things. At most, it will gridlock about raising taxes in the same way Congress always does.

This deal has handed us a hunk of shit. Don't tell us we need to make lemonade.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 12:20 AM
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21. That's not shit! That's fine Belgian chocolate.
Do not be fooled by the flies and stench.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 08:35 AM
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24. Ketchup makes shit sandwiches appealing!
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 09:52 AM
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15. Government of the rich, by the rich and for the rich.
And the rest of you serfs, get the fuck off my lawn.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-11 03:04 PM
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17. "Fierce Advocate" - can't forget that one either
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 12:22 AM
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22. There were no Social Security Cuts in the budget deal
So the problem is that Obama did... or didn't cut social security?

I'm confused.
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 11:07 AM
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25. It's funny how, when you quote facts and numbers, the Obamabots come back with popularity polls
Do they seriously believe that they are somehow on the same intellectual level? Do they think that "popular opinion" is some sort of profoundly meaningful entity? Do they not acknowledge the existence of propaganda?

How many people approve of something that is based on factual errors is no more and no less than an inventory of the stupid.


BTW - it's not shit, it's durian flavored truffles. Why can't you appreciate it?
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indypaul Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 11:18 AM
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26. Script for the bipartisan negotiation
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Don't call my bluff.

REP CANTOR: Call.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Fold.

Thirty minute break for lunch.

Menu, Republicans, pizza. Democrats, satan sandwiches.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-11 11:30 AM
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28. Looks like this columnist is not a Democrat
And apparently would have let us to the mercies of the default. Well it probably would not have affected him and he could have written columns blaming others for it.
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