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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:10 AM
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Tea Party Rep: Bank Should Have Known I Wouldn't Be Able To Repay $2.2 Million Loan
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 09:13 AM by Chimichurri
Tea Party aligned Georgia Rep. Tom Graves (R), who castigates Washington for fiscal irresponsibility, reached an out of court settlement Wednesday after he was sued for defaulting on a $2.2 million loan -- which his attorney argued is the bank's fault for lending him the money in the first place.

Graves and his business partner Chip Rogers -- who is the state Senate's Republican majority leader -- took out a $2.2 million loan from the Bartow County Bank in 2007 to buy and renovate a local motel. The project soon went belly-up.

The bank, which has since failed and had its assets taken over, sued Graves and Rogers for defaulting. The two Republicans then countersued, "accusing of improperly declaring the loan in default after reneging on a promise to refinance it at more favorable terms,"

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/08/tea_party_rep_bank_should_have_known_i_wouldnt_be_able_to_repay_22_million_loan.php



The hypocrisy is so profound, I don't even know where to begin.
First, the banks loose lending standards that gave this Tea Bagger the money is a direct result of massive deregulation - which Republicans love. Second, whatever happened to "fiscal responsibility" these right wingers regurgitate over and over. Next, the audacity of demanding better terms to a loan he KNEW he could not afford is the biggest hypocrisy of all.

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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:12 AM
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1. k & r..nt
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:17 AM
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2. What happened to taking personal responsibility?
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 09:18 AM by The Backlash Cometh
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:57 AM
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11. Yeah... acording to the Tehadists wasn't...
the popped mortgage bubble the fault of people who bought houses they couldn't afford? :shrug:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:19 AM
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3. Soooo typical of RepubliBaggers (R)
Whine whine whine - never ever accept any responsibility for their own lowlife thoughts and actions. Pathetic.

No wonder Americans hold the honorless RepubliBaggers (R) in such low regard.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:23 AM
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4. My understanding is that's how lending used to work.
You gave a bank all the financial information they asked for, and they would only lend to you if they were certain (or at least nearly certain) that you could pay it back.

The good old days...
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:34 AM
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7. Indeed. Deregulate and these are the egregious practices you get. Oh and, rules were put in
because of stuff like this.
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OneGrassRoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:24 AM
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5. Is there a list of this type of irresponsibility and hypocrisy by tea partiers? n/t
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:27 AM
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6. Wait, isn't that the same refrain TONS of people here have sung
when the "victim" of the evil bank is someone (anyone!) other than a Tea Partier? The banks SHOULD HAVE KNOWN! The banks SUCKERED people into these outlandish loans!

Hypocrisy, thy name is DU.

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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:41 AM
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14. Tea Baggers scream free market and deregulate, sighting too much gov't oversight
Edited on Thu Aug-11-11 10:45 AM by Chimichurri
so when they turn around and denounce the very thing they promote, that's hypocrisy.

Not coming to this guy's defense (as you suggest we do) is not hypocritical, it's schadenfreude. People like him helped usher in this era of loose money and laissez-faire capitalism. Now that he got stung by it, he want's to forgo the consequences. Average Americans who got suckered in to risky loans or more often than not, lied into ARMs, were preyed upon and are the victims. This guy is a typical Tea Bagger looking to game the system.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:49 PM
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23. Pointing out hypocrisy isn't hypocrisy.
It *is* the bank's fault for not realizing he couldn't pay back a loan that large. (Assuming he didn't lie on the application. We'll give him the benefit of the doubt.)

Where hypocrisy comes in is that he's using an argument he and his ilk aren't willing to grant other people. In their minds other people are irresponsible while teabaggers were taken advantage of by a predatory bank.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:35 AM
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8. Actually, I agree that it was the bank's fault.
Really now, they should know better than to ever loan money to a teabagger! Had they asked him about his politic affiliations, the loan-process never would have made it past, "Hi, I'm Ted, your loan officer." }(
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:52 AM
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16. 2007
pre-tea-bagger
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:00 AM
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17. Yeah, but I bet a psychological profile
would have indicated everything that makes up a teabagger today ;)
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DenverDad Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:38 AM
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9. But, you see, Rep. Graves is a rich, white guy.
It's only the individuals fault if the individual is: A)Middle-class, B)Immigrant and/or C)Minority.

See, this is "different".
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 09:41 AM
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10. so in other words...
the tea party ball lickers only hire poor risks.

That's my take away.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:17 AM
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12. A business venture like this is a risky proposition.
If it had worked maybe it would have provided jobs. It didn't so that is that.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:29 AM
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13. There is such a thing as "Character", we heard all about it during the Clinton Administration.
:shrug:
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DotGone Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 10:48 AM
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15. More Hypocrisy from the Teabaggers. Surprise. Surprise.
When normal everyday people default, it's their fault for taking out a loan they could not afford. When they default, it's the bank's fault. Not knowing they signed a personal guarantee? Must be that contagious amnesia that's still getting passed around from Ollie. I'll bet they'll showcase this as an example of their personal responsibility.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:07 AM
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18. Another "personal responsibility" Republican
:eyes: :puke:

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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 11:16 AM
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19. K&R n/t
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 03:18 PM
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20. time for kickage
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:53 PM
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21. And Rec'age
K&R!
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bluestate10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:01 PM
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22. Notice how the Obama bashers have NO comments in an OP like this?
Save one, who gave a half assed response. Notice the same pattern in future OPs that bring republicans to task.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:55 PM
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24. Apparently the selective blindness that prevents people seeing how bad an idea centrist policies are
eventually spreads so you can't see half the replies on a thread.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:25 PM
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25. See if it a Black man it's all the Black mans fault
but hey this guy is special it's the banks fault.....these people make me sick.
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Blecht Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 08:27 PM
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26. "You fucked up. You trusted us."
I think it was Otter who said that.
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