So where should Libertarians go, you ask? Libertarianland under construction!

[Ruby the Liberal]

Pay Pal founder and early Facebook investor Peter Thiel has given $1.25 million to an initiative to create floating libertarian countries in international waters, according to a profile of the billionaire in Details magazine.

Thiel has been a big backer of the Seasteading Institute, which seeks to build sovereign nations on oil rig-like platforms to occupy waters beyond the reach of law-of-the-sea treaties. The idea is for these countries to start from scratch--free from the laws, regulations, and moral codes of any existing place. Details says the experiment would be "a kind of floating petri dish for implementing policies that libertarians, stymied by indifference at the voting booths, have been unable to advance: no welfare, looser building codes, no minimum wage, and few restrictions on weapons."

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/IBqFcdQUvya6SsLIP_f69A--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/silicon-valley-billionaire-funding-creation-artificial-libertarian-islands-140840896.html

No welfare, minimum wage, or building codes (!) and lots of guns. What could possibly go wrong?

(No note as to what will make up the GDP or export capabilities of this new sovereign 'state', so its apparently only for those Libertarians who already raped and pillaged their way to wealth. The "base")

:rofl:

[mysuzuki2]

1. considering they are isolated in the middle of the ocean

they might want to reconsider the building codes part.

[Ruby the Liberal]

2. Thats no fun. Its about FREEDOM!

:D

[mysuzuki2]

4. i support their freedom to drown!

[guitar man]

10. Me too

"Galt Island to US Coast Guard, Mayday Mayday, we're taking on water, can you throw over some life lines?"

"Coast Guard to Galt Island... ah, negative, we suggest you grab your bootstraps instead!" :evilgrin:

[mysuzuki2]

12. Libertarians don't need no stinkin' coastguard!

they can provide for their own safety. Anyone without the foresight to buy a life preserver deserves what they get.

[Ruby the Liberal]

14. "Galt Island"

Ahahahahaha!

[JHB]

19. more like GilliGalt's Island

Sit right back and you'll hear a tale
a tale of a free man's trip
it started in this leecher's port
a bureaucratic pit....

Keep it going, folks!

[Ruby the Liberal]

22. Well played!

:D

[Pholus]

3. I dunno. I might pay them for a live video feed of their utopia in a storm... nt

[haele]

5. So, who's going to be doing the scutt work in their libertarian paradise?

I'd be happy to be the first to tell them that they have to pay to get quality help - and no one works for free. Even with slaves, you have to buy and care for them. Your staff is only as loyal to you as you are to them. You also find there's always unpleasant consequences if you mistreat your help, especially if you're stuck out in the middle of no-where and you can't just kick your staff to the curb and hire new staff the same day...

They don't sound like liberty-loving individuals - they sound like frustrated, petty potentates.

Haele

[guitar man]

7. If I did any work for them

I'd hand them a highly detailed contract they wouldn't believe. And if they failed to pay up...well, they did say there would be few restrictions on weapons out there :evilgrin:

[Cleita]

21. They will probably get slaves, either bought or

captured from Third World Countries.

[haele]

25. Just like those oil sheiks in the gulf, right? As I said, these folks aren't about liberty

They're about being petty kings of their own worlds.

And slaves are notoriously not a reliable workforce, unless they're in a culture where they've got some rights under the law - and a chance to earn their freedom.

Skilled slaves are hard to find nowadays - there's no longer a culture where one could be like Ceasar with his educated slaves that would be happily loyal to the death...

Of course, in the case of these Randriods, I'd be willing to set up a book for each of these paraniod robber barons with more hair than brains...
I've got these spots set up...
Chances of death by infrastructure failure (either accidental or intentional)
Chances of "accidental death by gunshot".
Chances of being wiped out in a natural disaster.
Chances of death by poisoning (either accidental or intentional) with it's corralary - death by slave revolt.

Haele

[guitar man]

6. I want one of the top floor units

with no building codes, I'll just cut a hole in the floor and put that new toilet anywhere I want. :rofl:

"You're flushing your toilet into my living room!"

"It's my floor and YOU can't tell me what to do with it!!"

"But you're flushing your toilet into my living room, you ruined my new 72" big screen HDTV!!"

"It's not MY fault you bought a bottom unit, that sounds like a personal problem to me, you know, *caveat emptor* "

:spray: :rofl:

[Ruby the Liberal]

9. !

:rofl:

[LanternWaste]

8. I can eat tainted meat whilst fondling my fully loaded bazooka in substandard housing.

I can eat tainted meat whilst fondling my fully loaded bazooka in substandard housing.

Seasteading community... or Somalia?

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. After the first CAT 2 they will be begging for that

UN and ICRC to come help...

And under the Laws of the Seas (which I am sure they do not realize exists) once they issue a Mayday...

[TBF]

13. I hope Thiel and Zuckerberg are the first to move there -

and I have a list of others they can take with them. Including Perry, Bachman, Palin ... send them all to the new "paradise".

ETA - and I forgot to mention that I'm thrilled these billionaires are doing such important work with all the money they've saved on taxes.

:sarcasm:

[guitar man]

17. they would kill each other

When Perry, Bachmann, Palin et. al tried to foist their theocratic ways on the less religious or non religious bunch... the fight would be on.

But then that wouldn't be surprising, I have a friend who was formerly a bigtime supporter of the Libertarian party here. One quote of his that will always stick with me is " the Libertarians will never be that serious of a movement, any time you get a bunch of them in a room together, it's not long before they all want to kill each other"

:rofl:

[Angry Dragon]

15. Need a buch of teabagger and fundy islands

[Tesha]

16. They could name it "The B Ark".

But let's make sure we keep a few telephone
sanitizers around afterwards.

Tesha

[Ruby the Liberal]

18. This story was featured as KO's Worst Person in the World tonight! Link to video:

http://current.com/shows/countdown/videos/worst-persons-bachmann-lamborn-and-entrepreneur-peter-thiel

[Cleita]

20. So how are they going to get workers to go there?

Enslave them? I think an experiment like that was started that became Australia. Guess where they got their workers.

[Ruby the Liberal]

23. Well, they are Libertarians.

They will take all of the "felony" Marijuana "convicts".

Hey - come to think of it, we may have just found the answer to GDP and exports! :D

[ATLdemocrat]

27. They probably think "Workers? For what?"

"You throw money into the ocean and a ready-made city rises from the waves. Isn't that how it works?"

[Rochester]

24. Let them all move there, then conquer their "country"

[guitar man]

26. Especially

If they don't have a flag :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEx5G-GOS1k&feature=youtube_gdata_player