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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:19 PM
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Poll question: Voting: Do you vote FOR more candidates or AGAINST more candidates?
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 05:32 PM by GreenPartyVoter
And if you don't mind sharing in a reply, do you feel the election system we have in place works? Why or why not? :hi:

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:23 PM
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1. It depends. I voted for a lot of people, sometimes for, sometimes ..
Depends on who is running for what
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:25 PM
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2. Yeah, I am a mixed bag myself, but unfortunately I would have to say I fall into the
"against" category the most often. And sometimes I don't even get that option, when the local and state ballots only offer Repubs for a certain office.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:26 PM
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4. I'd say more "for"
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:26 PM
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3. I voted FOR Obama in 08
I'll probably end up voting AGAINST the GOP candidate in 2012.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:27 PM
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5. That's come up a lot on the board lately.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:30 PM
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6. Other
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 05:39 PM by Hydra
I vote because people insist it makes a difference.

I believe otherwise, so I vote to show people how little it actually does.

I have to admit, President Obama managed to prove my point of view beyond anything I could have imagined.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:33 PM
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8. Oops! I forgot to give you an "other" option. I have edited the poll if you'd like
to vote now.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:40 PM
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14. T/Y :D
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:43 PM
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15. No prob! I feel badly that I forgot to put it in. I don't think I would get hired by a real polling
outfit anytime soon. LOL
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:33 PM
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7. In local and state elections, I usually vote FOR the candidate.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-11 05:34 PM by Dawson Leery
This past year I voted FOR Democrats in congress and Blumenthal for Senate.

Next year, many of us will be working FOR Democrats to retake the US House and AGAINST whatever mid-evil, religious-tent revival fascist will be running for the Presidency on the Republican ticket.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:35 PM
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9. It is a shame, but I vote more against candidates than for them.
Too many choices that we have are bad or badder, no "real" people are able to run for office. The costs are getting too much for most of the population to have a chance. Even in local races, it is harder to do without money of your own to put into the chest. No one is there for the poor and working classes.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:37 PM
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11. My dad was running for state legislature as a Green, and he couldn't opt for
the Clean Election funds because he was a one-man operation and was worried about making sure he stayed on top of the requirements.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:03 PM
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20. I can't imagine how hard that campaign must have been for him.
I have watched people running for local races with a major party affiliation who have had an impossible time. Time, money, regulations.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:42 PM
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23. Unfortunately, he didn't get far. That was the spring when he passed away. :^(
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:50 PM
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24. I am sorry you lost him. He must have been a great
father, role model, and teacher to have had that much spunk. It is not an easy task to take on the ruling class. I hope that had nothing to do with his passing away.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:11 PM
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26. I hope not, too, but he was already not in the best of health. It may not have
been physically healthy for him, but mentally and emotionally he was happy to be doing it. :)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:37 PM
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10. My nose holding days are over. I vote for candidates now.
I can still overlook minor compromises I don't really care about. But, the "not as bad", "lesser of two evils", ploy rings up a no sale. I'm to old to play that game any longer.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:39 PM
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12. I think I would vote differently if we had a ranked voting system. More "fors" for me, I would hope.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:39 PM
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13. since 2010 i vote "for"
before it was a mixed bag. I will no longer for "against" someone.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:50 PM
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16. If there is a republican running
then there is a candidate to vote against. I can proudly say that I have never failed to vote against a republican. I am not about to start failing either. I just don't want to encourage that sort of thinking. I would not vote for a republican to be dog catcher, nor will I sit on the sidelines when one is running, for anything.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:55 PM
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17. Other:
I have voted "against" candidates too many times in my lifetime. In the new century, I've moved further and further toward voting FOR candidates.

At this point in time, I only vote FOR candidates who either earned my vote or who I deem to be neutral; not who I'd like to see, but not a "lesser evil," either.

I no longer vote for lesser evils.

Why? I'm tired of my vote being taken for granted. I'm tired of my party thinking that I owe them whether they earn my support or not. I'm tired of watching lesser evils continue to move us in an evil direction, whether it is less quickly or not. After 3+ decades of voting, we've fallen of the right-wing edge of sanity; I won't enable that with lesser evil votes ever again.

If the rest of the voters choose to enable our destruction, that's on them.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:58 PM
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18. no, I do't like it
instant runoff/alternative voting would be my preference. Then more people could vote FOR someone rather than against others.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 05:58 PM
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19. Other. I voted FOR Obama, and that was a first
I almost exclusively vote against candidates.

Cynicism sucks, but it is what it is.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:11 PM
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21. It's All About Trying to Stop (or At Least Slow Down) the Insane Repiglickins and Fundies
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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:38 PM
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22. "Lesser of two evils" voting only promotes more running by "evils"
That is why I have always voted "for" someone even when in the past that has meant occasionally looking to Greens or Indies. If we don't make the Democratic party be the party of working people, then we have only ourselves to blame. Voting for Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman ain't gonna cut it. Nebraska and Connecticut can both be won by working class heroes if we want them to be. If politics is the art of the possible, and we define our own reality, then we determine what is possible. Or we can sit on our asses and keep saying "it can't be done" and keep letting the powers that be win. It is up to us.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 06:51 PM
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25. In the primaries, I vote for candidates...
...in general elections I vote against candidates.

In general this is the pattern.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:11 PM
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27. I've heard that from several people.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:27 PM
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28. In the general election in almost all cases BOTH
Especially in the last three decades, I am ALWAYS voting against the Republican. As to the Democrat, there have always been some parts of their platform I strongly believe in. There have been some cases where the candidate I wanted got the nomination - and some where one of my least favorites won - but there were always somethings to support - if only that they supported Democratic ideas.

It is hurtful that starting in 2004, people have tried to use the ABX language in the general election instead of the primaries where it originated. In that context if the majority of people dislike the frontrunner, but are split among several candidates, the idea of uniting behind one of them makes sense - though I never saw a case where it worked (unless you want to say that this was the dynamic behind Obama.)

In the general election, A large % of people are almost certain to always vote for the Republican or the Democrat. For example, in 1992, I was not an early primary supporter of Clinton's, but when he became the nominee, I never labeled myself as ABB. In 2004, Cavelle and Begala spent hours whining about Kerry being ABB. I assume they would not have been happy if two of the more important Democrats in media would have done that in 1992.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:49 PM
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29. It should not be based on which is lesser evil.
It should be which is the best candidate. And if the person has not won the nomination regardless of which level the election involves it is because they failed to win that nomination for whatever reason. Some people win the nomination and don't deserve it. But we are stuck with the result and have to make the best of it. And learn from our mistakes and help get the right candidates.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 07:50 PM
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30. To me, that is irrelevant
I vote against Republicans, period. I would write in a useless vote if there was nothing but a Republican running (I have actually experienced that locally). But I also vote for the Democrat.

I don't need to be coddled and inspired. Politics is part of daily life. It's not a drama.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 08:35 PM
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31. It honestly depends
When I lived in MS it was almost always voting against with the exception of my Congressional vote. In Ohio, it was a bit of both. In North Carolina I vote for my state house, state senate, and occassionaly governor along with congress and President. Senate was a vote against. I hated Dole with the intensity of a thousand suns and voted Hagan to get rid of her.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 08:39 PM
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32. I generally vote FOR candidates because I choose to live in Democratic areas.
I like living where I have Democratic elected officials, as much as possible.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:04 AM
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39. That works out well for you. :^) I would definitely choose to live in liberal areas if I could, but
the mixed bag area where I am now (Maine) isn't so bad.
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ornotna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 08:48 PM
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33. Generally against
I live in Florida. 'Nuff said.
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 08:48 PM
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34. Both. n/t
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:22 PM
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35. Other: Both, sometimes simultaneously.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:29 PM
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36. generally, 'for'....
....because voting 'against' usually causes me to fall asleep before I reach the polls....

....sometimes I'm excited when I'm 'for' the 'against' and try to vote twice....
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OhioBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:49 PM
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37. Almost always for
I look at a race, I have a choice to make and I make it. I vote for the person or persons that I think are best.

I will say that in '06 there was one state race in which I didn't like the dem candidate, but voted for him anyway b/c I wanted the dems to get the apportionment board. so.. I guess that might have been an against the R vote to get the seat... or I guess you could also look at it as a For vote for a Dem...

come to think of it... yeah.. they're all FOR unless I'm clueless about someone like in a school board race but KNOW the opposition and don't like them. Actually - everyone's vote for candidates that are known are FOR votes - that is the only responsible thing to do. Look at the choices and then pick the one that you think is best. it is our civic duty.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-11 09:52 PM
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38. Vote for Democrats
Vote against repuglycans.

Really, there is no other choice.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:07 AM
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40. Why continue voting against
than for a candidate, when eventually your needs will never be met, and vote always counted upon?
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:08 AM
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41. Unfortunately here in FL it's usually "against" candidates.
From the grassroots up, I am usually voting for the GOB assholes just to keep the ridiculously bat-shit crazy zombie motherfuckers from moving in. It's an uphill battle. :shrug:
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:52 AM
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42. That must be frustrating. :^(
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 09:56 AM
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43. Obama was the 1st candidate I ever voted "for" in 2008. And probably the last. Its likely 2012 will

be my first "write-in" vote.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 10:59 AM
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44. Two firsts, then. Are you a long-time voter, if you don't mind me asking?
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Erose999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 11:19 AM
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47. My first vote in a Pres. election was for Gore in 2000.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 11:12 AM
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45. Against, mostly. Doesn't that suck? n/t
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 11:18 AM
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46. I have a genuine moral objection to "voting against" candidates.
And I'll gladly admit that, in 20 years of voting, I've never done so.

If there's nobody on the ballot that I want to vote FOR, I just leave that race blank (or I'll do a write-in). I refuse to vote for people who do not advance my ideals.
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akwapez Donating Member (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 11:22 AM
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48. Obama is the only candidate I ever voted FOR....
and if I cast my vote that way again it will be back to against the opponent.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-11 11:24 AM
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49. I vote FOR Democrats.
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