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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 07:35 AM Original message |
We're too quick to use "mental illness" as an explanation for violence. |
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mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R nt |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. fascinating. nt |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. It's the Mix! |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 07:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. At this point, no one knows what Loughner thought. |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Even so |
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janedum (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. How convenient ... "he was mentally ill" .. |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. They have an excuse... |
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janedum (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. RIght-WIngers will ALWAYS have a way of DISTORTING the truth. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 09:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Actually, it's human nature to distort the truth for self-security |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Now That's the Truth... |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
7. Well, guns can't be the problem so what else could it be? |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. People want to feel safe, we need a causative agent to blame. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
8. We are too selective to embrace murderers who fit our politics |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Just Out Of Curiousity... |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 09:13 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. I haven't heard of any. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. BION, the assertion is environmentalists (lefties) and the unabomber |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #20 |
38. Me neither... |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
34. Free Mumia! Free Leonard Peltier! Free Tookie! Free OJ! |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
11. Too quick to assume alot of things |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:30 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. You're Kidding, Right? |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Legal Definition |
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affrayer (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
39. We're Not A Court Of Law... |
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cling2reality (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
13. Maybe it's because |
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CanSocDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Not exactly. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Yes, those same laymen who perpetuate the stigmatization of the mentally ill? |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Mentally ill people are far likelier to be the victim of violence than they are |
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cling2reality (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Would it be helpful if |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. For me it's not about being PC it's about defining us vs THEM out of ignorance |
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roakes10190 (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
22. He's just crazy. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 10:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Very true |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
24. It certainly contributes to the stigma of mental illness, that's for sure |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Exactly. It tars everyone with that label. Yet, the words used on DU do the same thing, and it |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
25. There is a difference between Ted Bundy and Jared Loughner? |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 10:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. The point of the OP is not whether or not Loughner is mentally ill |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 10:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. My point was: |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. The problem is in things like the dichotomy you propose |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
30. I disagree. I stated that I believed theshooter was mentally ill because of |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Mark, this isn't about whether or not Loughner is mentally ill |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #33 |
40. I certainly agree with that, and I did not mean to suggest otherwise...nt |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
36. I don't think we use it enough... |
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Cetacea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. It doesn't address how many were violent. |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-12-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Yes, a curiosity of how our society deals with deviants |
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