Do you thin Obama should be primaried, with who?

[Jmaxfie1]

Just wondering. If you think Obama should be primaried/replaced and with who?

Please give an actual candidate not: (a liberal, a democrat, a progressive, etc.), a real person.

[Jmaxfie1]

1. I'll start it off

I really wouldn't primary him but if I had to I'd like Byron Dorgan even though he is basically retired now.

[Jmaxfie1]

2. No is a good answer also. n/t

[monmouth]

3. NO!

[Jmaxfie1]

4. Me neither. n/t

[11 Bravo]

30. Permit me to briefly append my own response to yours. FUCK NO!

[banned from Kos]

5. No prominent Dem will primary Obama.

Maybe some attention-seeker fringe player has-been will though.

[Jmaxfie1]

6. I agree on that one.

It just seems so many people are mad at him (why? don't ask me?)

[Life Long Dem]

7. I don't think it will matter.

[Jmaxfie1]

10. No, but it would give the disaffected some happiness.

I always ask, you don't like Obama, who would you replace him with, no one seems to know lol.

[Life Long Dem]

19. Yeah, I say let Hillary throw her hat in again.

It would be fun to see that again.

[BobbyBoring]

38. My spider senses tell me she will

Clintons are predictable critters!

[Lasher]

56. The thing about that is, the two of them are almost identical on the issues.

So I don't see how things would be much different with Hillary as president.

[Jmaxfie1]

40. I don't see that going very well. n/t

[sabrina 1]

59. That would not change anything. We would still have the same

cabinet members, maybe even a return of Rahm who was a Clinton choice to begin with. Obama, who opposed some of Clinton's policies as a candidate, turned around and embraced them as President. Mandated Insurance eg.

No more DLCers we need real Progressive candidates.

[JVS]

8. Evan Bayh and Howard Dean should throw their hats in the ring.

[Jmaxfie1]

11. finallt, atleast some answers.

I know both, but more familiar with Dean, what is Bayh's platform?

[Taverner]

14. Evan Bayh is a DLC Dino

Why him?

[JVS]

Because if our party is to be run by the DLC, I'd prefer it be by a DLCer who is open about it.

That way I wouldn't have to listen to 4 more years of "Bayh doesn't have a magic wand! He's not a dictator!"

[JVS]

17. Bayh's a conservadem.

[Jmaxfie1]

33. Guess why I have heard of him, but not really heard of him if you get my meaning. n/t

[lillypaddle]

18. Evan Bayh?

and people think Obama is too conservative ...

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. Evan Bayh --UGH. Remember when Bush stole the election in 2004

Bayh had a press conference about something else and a 90+ year old lady stood up and
said, "How are supposed to have any faith in the system when our votes aren't even
being counted fairly." I will never forget his puzzled look and his reply that
the election was fair. Like he was intellectually void. Like he could say it was
fair knowing he hadn't given it one single thought about it or researched the issues.

Plus, his haircut is the creepiest I have ever seen (second only to Trump)

[MarianJack]

9. 3 Answers.

1. No

2. Hell No.

3. Shit Hell No.

PEACE!

[Ganja Ninja]

12. No I'd rather he drop out altogether.

Then open the field to the other Democrats that want to run.

Nobody wants to try and primary a sitting president. A primary will only hurt his chances and frankly I don't think it will solve his problems in getting re-elected. If he wins there are still going to be 25% of Democrats that will be dissatisfied and the party will not unite. If he drops out a real primary fight could take place and the party could have a chance to unite around a new candidate.

[gkhouston]

48. +1. n/t

[Taverner]

13. I don't - primary-ing him would make things far worse

Right now, don't expect him to take our side, but be thankful he's not Bachmann or Perry

[Cleita]

15. He won't be primaried.

If he there was a hint of that to come, there already would be candidates out there feeling the temperature with exploratory committees. It's a bad idea anyway because the Democrats will lose. There is a block of voters out there that will vote for the incumbent because they don't like change and they are enough to tip the election if they have to make a choice and most likely they will chose the candidate of the opposite party. Look at your history. It just never ends well.

[Le Taz Hot]

16. Yes

but it will never happen. The "Democratic" Party will ensure that will never ever happen. Doncha just LOVE Democracy? I'll throw a name out for you: Maxine Waters. But that's just my own personal bias because I love and adore her.

[Cleita]

20. I love Maxine too, but she has too much baggage for

the Repubs to drag out and repeat over and over. She's fine where she is and where she does the most good.

[Jmaxfie1]

29. I don't think she could win IMHO. n/t

[Lasher]

21. I think Obama should be primaried by Howard Dean.

Robert Reich, Alan Grayson, or Bernie Sanders would make a good running mate.

[scheming daemons]

26. Except for the fact that Dean supports Obama 100%

[MannyGoldstein]

28. Dean supports 100% of what Obama's doing?

News to me.

[scheming daemons]

54. Nice twist of words. He supports Obama's re-election 100%. So he wont' run against him.

[Lasher]

58. The question in the OP was not one of what is likely to happen.

We were asked what we thought should happen.

[MannyGoldstein]

61. You simply stated that Dean supports Obama 100%

Your correction is better. Dean has said it would not be a good idea to primary Obama, although I don't think I've heard that recently (although I've not been paying attention to it, either).

[Jmaxfie1]

36. Robert Reich seems pretty moderate IMO.

Don't get me wrong I love the dude, but I seem him more as a cabinet position.

[Lasher]

39. I like his position on socio-economic issues.

I think he would make an excellent VP or President. It's a crying shame that he's not currently serving in a top cabinet position right now.

[snooper2]

22. I thin it stupid

not going to happen

[WI_DEM]

23. No, he's our nominee and it's getting way to late for anyone to do it anyhow.

[Frustratedlady]

24. No!

[RussBLib]

25. Bernie Sanders

One of the few "real" liberals left, although he's classified as an Independent. Bernie wouldn't win, but he could help pull the conversation back to the left a bit.

[Jmaxfie1]

31. being a socialist, yeah he has no chance.

I don't think he would even make many waves in the primaries though. I think he is to left for most people.

[B Calm]

64. I think he could win. He might not have republican support, but who cares!!!

[kestrel91316]

27. Well, Feingold or Sanders would move the debate in the right direction

and pressure Obama to come back to the left. But that won't happen. Sigh.

[obxhead]

32. Yes

With a Democrat who will stand up for Democratic principals.

[Jmaxfie1]

34. But who? n/t

[WhiteTara]

35. No. Why do you ask? n/t

[Jmaxfie1]

37. Just everyone seems to be hating on Obama...

I just wondered what they thought the solution is

[Lasher]

42. I think Obama should be primaried but I don't hate him.

I object to the characterization.

[Bluebear]

44. Yes everyone is just "hating"

:silly:

[WhiteTara]

65. Are you hating on him too? n/t

[undeterred]

41. George Clooney

He's smart, he's liberal, and he's available.

[Justpat]

43. Yes, if for no other reason than to get him in the fight mode.

So far the only person he has been willing to go toe to toe with in his career is Hillary Clinton.

[MilesColtrane]

45. Aquaman

He talks to fish.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

47. How about Michelle. She's seems more "fired up and ready to go" nt

[woo me with science]

49. A Democrat.

I mean a real one, not the Third Way faux kind.

The kind who defends SS, Medicare and Medicaid and doesn't make speeches about how cutting them is good for the country.

The kind who does not push supply-side economic measures and who focuses on JOBS before spending cuts.

The kind who decreases the war budget instead of increasing it, and puts troops in FEWER countries, instead of more.

The kind who holds corrupt banks and corporations accountable instead of pressuring for settlements that will end investigations and grant immunity.


I will welcome and wholeheartedly support *any* Democrat who stands up and makes a sustained and serious and passionate fight for these Democratic values and policies.

[Jmaxfie1]

57. But who?? n/t

[sfpcjock]

50. No. You dance with the one who brung 'ya.

We cannot primary our President now. The result would be an election literally given to the right with which they will add two more nut-bags to the Supreme Court, cripple the government, and poison our food.

[sabrina 1]

51. I don't think that is the solution right now.

The solution is to put all the energy and money people have into electing Progressive Democrats to Congress and the Senate. It probably won't happen to the extent needed this election, but we should start right now. If that is accomplished, it won't matter so much what the WH wants. But as it stands now, the people are not being represented as they should be.

[NeedleCast]

52. No

[Pool Hall Ace]

53. I would have preferred that he not run for re-election

but at this point, I don't believe he should be primaried.

[Safetykitten]

55. Michael Vick of course! Think of the possibilities. The fan vote alone!

[libodem]

60. Oh hell NO

Wadda you nutz?

[B Calm]

62. Bernie Sanders would be my first choice!!!

[Javaman]

63. Took the words out of my mouth. nt