List of evidence Rep. Kucinich was supposedly presented with to HELP the Gaddafi Regime

[DFab420]

"According to the document, Kucinich wanted evidence of corruption within the NTC and, like Welch, any possible links within rebel ranks to al-Qaeda.

The document also lists specific information needed to defend Saif Al-Islam, who is currently on the International Criminal Court's most-wanted list."

l.Any corrupt (verifiable) acts by the Opposition leaders. Include any personal motives for instance
to make money or gain certain types of power.

2.Any known Al-Qaeda operating in the Opposition.

3 .Any evidence ofatrocities committed by the Rebel soldiers.

4-.Any evidence ofCivilian deaths by NATO.

5 .Any evidence of arms sales to the Opposition in Benghazi or Misrata, including dates, who sold
the weapons, what type and the cost ofthe deals.

6.Any evidence of weapons being smuggled on boats to Misrata, with dates. and type of weapons.

7.Any evidence that the uprising was a planned event prior to February 17th. include intercepted
communications, names, dates.

S.Evidence supporting that the Regime has a regular practice of hiring African military in its Pan-
African units and this was not a new (mercenaries) thing just for the uprising.

9.Communications with the UK and USA prior to the UN bombings to show Regime was
trying to negotiate peacefully.

10.Evidence of cease fires by the Regime or withdrawals of troops. Dates, location, description
(including why cease fire broke down).

1l.Evidence that before the uprising started, there were democratic projects under way, for
instance a plan for elections and so forth. This shows that they were already going this way and
aren't just saying that now.

l2.Evidence that The Leader had already planned to step down before the uprisings. This shows
there was already a transition going on. It also helps him save face for when he does step down
because it will look like that was the plan all along.

l3.A list of tribes and location known to be loyal to Regime, those pledging loyalty to Opposition,
and the remaining ones that have not pledged either way. The population of each group as well,
This shows that the Rebels don't have the full support of the country.

l4.A list and description (including date and location) of humanitarian efforts by Regime since this
started, or their attempts to aid the civilian population, and any efforts blocked by NATO or the
Rebels.


Alot of this sounds like he would need cables and messages that involved either the State Dept. or the DoD. I wonder if he sees those files without clearance what the penalty would be? Would there be one?

When did congressmen start working against the stated policy of the State Dept?

[sudopod]

1. "When did congressmen start working against the stated policy of the State Dept?"

You must be new here.

[DFab420]

2. Been here awhile now.. Last time I saw this was Eric Cantor's discussions with Israel

about how the new GOP would act as the mouthpiece for Israel in the US Congress......

[aquart]

3. Which, however, is in accord with US policy.

Horrible as it is to defend Cantor on anything and please consider this a one off.

Kucinich, however, needs to sit down and think about things.

[DFab420]

4. I agree. I think Kucinich is suffering a bit of a Quixotic syndrom. He lost the forest to the trees.

Focused so much on proving the Libyan intervention was wrong that he stuck in fingers into less then desirable pies..

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. He DOES think - more than most in Congress. nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

5. Good for DK. Congress allocates the money and has a right to know what it's being spent on.

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. And if the mujahadin in Afghanistan had been so vetted before we poured

money and arms into their organizations, would there have been a Bin Laden or a Taliban?

Contrary to 'real politik', the enemy of my enemy is NOT necessarily my friend. It is, if anything, MORE important to understand our allies than our enemies. We are not, after all, funding our enemies (except in Iraq and Afghanistan, of course).

[sudopod]

8. +1 nt

[flvegan]

9. You mean Dennis was working against yet another illegal war?

I love the supposed evidence. So where is it, and where has it been proven it was the intent to HELP (yours, not mine) the Gaddafi regime?

[girl gone mad]

10. Kucinich did the right thing.

The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

Since when is it wrong to analyze evidence before reaching conclusions? Why the attempt to spin proper due diligence into an act of treason?

[sabrina 1]

11. Excellent, a Congressman actually doing his job.

Since it is the job of Congress to decide whether a war should be funded or not, why was he the only one, assuming he was, who was asking all of these questions?

Surely no one is finding fault with a Congressman asking questions to determine whether or not the US should be involved in yet another war?

To think how Congress has behaved in the past, just rubber-stamping all of our foreign invasions and then funding them for years, while cutting essential programs for the most vulnerable Americans right here, endangering the lives of those Americans, I am glad to know that at least someone is asking questions first before just going along with ever foreign adventure the Executive Branch decides to get this country involved in.

[sabrina 1]

12. Dupe n/t