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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 03:45 AM Original message |
George W. Bush, plain fuckin stole the 2000 election. |
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Syrinx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. . |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Excellent read, God Bless Rolling Stone! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
65. JUNTA DAY 2000.12.12 |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
96. Could you please explain to me... |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:12 PM Response to Reply #96 |
102. SCOTUS named the monkey POTUS on 12/12/2000 |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:36 PM Response to Reply #96 |
122. Dec. 12, 2000 was the date of the Supreme's action ending vote counting in Florida. |
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nilram (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
132. Yes, GREAT read. Made me re-up my ACLU membership. |
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snagglepuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 12:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
68. Thks for posting. nt |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
77. NO NO NO!!! Al Gore lost that election all by himself. |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
97. Actually, I think quite a few people believe he did win. |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. Democrats need a five point lead in the polls |
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UnrepentantLiberal (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:57 PM Response to Reply #97 |
105. So keep gnawing on that conspiracy theory bone. Losing feels good |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:07 PM Response to Reply #105 |
107. Nice you have so much faith in Republican-owned proprietary voting software. nt |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #97 |
106. There's just the question: who owns the proprietary voting machines? |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #97 |
111. Watch this... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 11:51 AM Response to Reply #97 |
166. That's why polls showing Obama beating Romney or Perry by only a few points scare me. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #77 |
142. Gore won the election. No one held a gun to his head and forced |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:33 AM Response to Reply #142 |
151. This was the first major move on Fox News's part. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:38 AM Response to Reply #151 |
153. Oh, it was a bloodless coup for sure. Gore should have accused |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #142 |
167. The Republicans held all the cards and they held a gun against the American Peoples' head. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 03:44 PM Response to Reply #167 |
170. Academic now, but given that the U.S. embraced an official policy |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:16 PM Response to Reply #170 |
171. Consider what happened during the last one, 600,000+ Americans died on both sides using |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. I say it's academic, but your post seems to indicate that the |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:46 PM Response to Reply #172 |
174. Al Gore wasn't faced with that decision in 2000, he was faced with the potential for U.S. Civil War. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 01:23 AM Response to Reply #174 |
179. Yeah, I see your point I think. I'm not advocating for a 2nd civil war, mind you, |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #179 |
181. There are too many variables to answer your question. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 02:10 AM Response to Reply #181 |
184. Sort of like van Papen believed that, once Hindenburg appointed |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 09:56 AM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Yes but to a much lesser extent, if we're talking about the individual, Bush; unlike Hitler isn't in |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #186 |
188. You just think Bush isn't in power |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 11:20 AM Response to Reply #188 |
192. There are other major differences in your analogy of course, I was in a rush |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. I concur with all you've written. I think the strongest difference is |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 02:05 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. Thanks, coalition_unwilling. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
2. No, no, no, no.... |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. LMAO. Good ole Nadir. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:46 AM Response to Reply #2 |
8. It's easier and more familiar to be mad at one annoying guy |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:53 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Nader doesn't get a pass. He did absolutely nothing to help defeat Bush: |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 07:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. I agree with you... |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
78. Best summary of Nader's role in the 2000 election EVER!!! |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #78 |
95. Nader was full of crap about the Corvair |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
49. Deleted message |
libinnyandia (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
79. Ralph Nader 2000 |
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mattclearing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:02 PM Response to Reply #79 |
101. Welcome to DU! |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:16 AM Response to Reply #2 |
50. Shhhh |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
56. "54% of the 179,855 ballots "spoiled" were cast by African-American voters" |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 02:13 AM Response to Reply #56 |
158. Karma is a bitch. |
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AverageJoe90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
89. Truth is, if if hadn't been for Nader........ |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #89 |
163. Right -- Bush didn't need to stop the vote counting in Miami-Dade -- 120,000 votes never counted !! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
112. hahahaha... it was a clever talking point while it lasted |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
131. Evidently the DINOs that voted for GWB want us all to believe it |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
3. Some people here still don't believe that Poppy Bush, Murdoch and Mr. Matalin rigged it in '88. NT |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:28 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Can we finally be done with the Bush family? |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. The Bush crime family is still on the loose, and Jeb could still run for president. |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
85. We are fools if we don't put an immediate stop to Jeb's ambitions. |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I'd bet, if the Republican party has another close election |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
91. Stop giving me nightmares...the thoughts of another Bush scares the s**t out of me. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Are you kidding? They're like termites. |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Misanthropes for centuries or it seems ! |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
51. the Bushes have George P. and Jeb Jr. (35 & 28 years old) waiting in the wings |
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A wise Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 01:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
75. As long as the remembrance... |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
40. ROVER did it, with help from his 'friends,' he's STILL doing it, |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
81. Rove learned his trade from Lee Atwater in '88. Dole in '88 won every hand counted precinct in NH |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. Right, Atwater, |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:56 AM Response to Reply #81 |
143. Actually, Rove was one of Donald Segretti's dirty tricksters during |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 03:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
98. Hmm, that sounds interesting. |
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Hart2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Mr. Mary Matalin indeed. The Matalins are like Guy Bannister's office in Garrison's book. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 03:59 AM Response to Reply #99 |
164. Very interesting info, Hart. n/t |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
183. The links you provided had me going for a while there. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
117. The Bush family has been criminal since the '20's!!! |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:02 AM Response to Original message |
10. Excellent post |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:28 AM Response to Original message |
11. Well..we had a Democratic majority in 2006 that promised to |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
70. If it's a close election and Obama narrowly wins, of course he |
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lark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #70 |
83. Good idea, but how in the world can it be done |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:15 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Nationalize all of the machines and administer them with an honest and fair |
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INdemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #70 |
93. We have a chance to take back the House and increase our |
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Sancho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
12. In Florida they just hack the voting machines.... |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
63. and in 80% of the country! Votes are tbaulated by one private company in 80% of the US. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
126. Bull Crap! |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
13. Morning in America |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Yeah, those Reagan Democrats sure screwed the country good.. n/t |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I can remember standing in line at the unemployment office as that ad was on the TV there |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. I was an electrician working commercial construction at the time.. |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. This from your post: |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 07:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. You'll have to excuse their desperation, they only have $400,000 a year to live on.. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
31. +1, n/t |
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sunwyn (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
16. When free and fair elections no longer exist, we will live in tyranny. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Yep, I fear democracy has left America. Now we live in a contrived corrupt |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
127. We have been living in tyranny since 2000. Didn't you notice Bush? |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #16 |
145. As noted democrat (lower-case 'd') Joseph Stalin once said, "He who casts a vote |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
175. We are awfully close. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:15 AM Response to Original message |
17. Beautiful! kr nt |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:21 AM Response to Original message |
19. Nancy Pelosi should of had him hung to dry, for High Treason. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:25 AM Response to Original message |
21. They should just be called, "The Terrorist Party." n/t |
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stuntcat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #21 |
44. +1 |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. It's a sickness, unfortunately it's not currently classified as such, but is |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:26 AM Response to Original message |
23. The difference between Republicans and Democrats is obvious here |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:31 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Often too many democrats are too busy fighting with each other while the |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Thats why Democrats are more American ,oh boy ,because the process |
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mother earth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
26. After the steal, they'll say it was the tea party upset... |
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RegieRocker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
27. Waiting for those who argue their is no proof of electronic |
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digitaln3rd (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:40 AM Response to Original message |
29. Sorry, but you're wrong.. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Yep, I think you hit on the major key point, "show the American people that they're different |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. RFK was the last Democrat. |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:52 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yep, he was!!! When JFK was murdered, the magic and democracy left the country. IMO it's |
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digitaln3rd (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 07:11 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. And I can't see it changing anytime soon. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 12:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
67. Oh come on. There have been plenty of good Democrats since RFK. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #67 |
147. Not to piss on the RFK parade, but RFK and JFK both cozied up |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:07 AM Response to Reply #30 |
146. Interesting. Until you mentioned it, I had not thought of that, but now |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 04:34 PM Response to Reply #146 |
173. Maybe that's what I am, Dem Socialist. I was just looking at the web site. n/t |
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orpupilofnature57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:47 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. The discussion is about the biggest ,costly ,lethal farce ,so far in our History.. |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
115. Well then we completely disagree, but it should be noted that whats taking place now |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 03:09 AM Response to Reply #29 |
161. By the way, if you are going to post on DU you should understand its founding. Here you go. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
39. It's not easy to win an election |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
41. You're absolutely right, repugs never fail to work their crap. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
42. Nebraska is NOT changing its election laws |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 12:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
69. Yes, and it resulted in Barack Obama winning an electoral vote that he wouldn't have if |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
43. And anything else he could get his fucking hands onto. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
45. AMEN!!! |
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Aaria (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
47. I can't believe anyone in this country would believe our elections are fair, honest or open. |
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tropicanarose (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
48. Yup. Of course he did and took out country into the toilet. It is an outrage |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
52. K&R |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
53. 2000 and 2004 |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. yes indeed! and they'd like to do 2012 if they can get the right state to poll closely enough |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 07:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
118. Im more pissed at Kerry than Bush for 2004. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:15 AM Response to Reply #118 |
148. Kerry's ineptness in 2004 shall live in infamy down through the ages of political |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:47 AM Response to Reply #148 |
154. I saw that interview too, that one REALLY pissed me off!! |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:51 AM Response to Reply #154 |
155. I remember telling my wife at the time (after I finished shouting at the |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:23 AM Response to Reply #148 |
189. Touche!!! K&R |
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pam4water (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
54. K&R |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
55. Most likely, but when the lobbyists come knocking, the elections die. |
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certainot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
57. all state efforts start at the local RW radio stations- they need to be picketed, sponsors boycotted |
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EmeraldCityGrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
58. There's a scene in Alexandra Pelosi's documentary |
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blkmusclmachine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
59. Tsk, tsk: |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
80. Their bodies make as good a fertilizer as anyone else's. Happy? |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:53 AM Response to Reply #59 |
157. Shucks, your right. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
61. unfortunately, the Democrats are helping. It is not just the Republicans. |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
62. privatizing the early voting system in FL??? Hello - earth to Justice Dept! |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
88. You bet. It reeks of corruption. Considering Governor Scotts previous behavior |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:57 AM Response to Reply #88 |
144. things do not look good for election integrity next year... I am so angry, and I'm sure thousands of |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
64. By its' actions the Republican Party is an enemy of democracy. |
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vets74 (714 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:55 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Bingo ! |
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KG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
71. rather, it was stolen for him. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
72. Unfortunately, the Republican Party is calling back: |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 02:35 AM Response to Reply #72 |
185. That's why we have to hang up! |
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Jim_Shorts (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
73. When you add vote hacking, redistricting, and voter suppression |
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A wise Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
74. Telling it to DU'ers... |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #74 |
82. It does mean something... |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #82 |
108. Thanks Uncle Joe |
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Guilded Lilly (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
76. OK, this is not a secret, this is commonly known WHY AREN'T the DEMS |
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Laura PourMeADrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
84. I am much more pissed about 2004 !!! Jeb rigged FL for SURE on that one too! nt |
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SnakeEyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
90. nate silver wrote a good article of how |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
92. I wonder why these election tactics don't work every time. |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
109. Because we fight, they lie, steal and cheat and we fight. |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #109 |
165. oh |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
100. My very, very elderly mother is politically aware and still enjoys |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
104. What's the big deal about having to show an ID to vote? |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:38 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. Are you a senior citizen? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #110 |
114. well stated |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #114 |
190. TOUCHE! |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #110 |
121. Senior citizens and other SS recipients cannot collect SS benefits unless they can |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:42 AM Response to Reply #121 |
191. Yes, but |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #104 |
113. because it costs MONEY and therefore it is a Poll Tax |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:30 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. It's insulting to the people who were orignally |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 02:59 AM Response to Reply #120 |
159. Good luck with that, it is flat out a poll tax. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 06:56 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. Pantload! |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #104 |
125. It changes the election outcome by 1-2 percent in favor of Republicans. |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #125 |
135. I'd like to see the sources for that, if you don't mind. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #135 |
136. Some people do not have photo IDs, and it cost them to obtain them. Barriers work! |
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Flatulo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:42 AM Response to Reply #136 |
141. Thanks for the info. Live and learn. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:22 AM Response to Reply #104 |
149. If you have to have an ID to vote and, to obtain the ID, you have to |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #104 |
182. I live in NJ. |
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Ricochet21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
119. unconstitional |
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vanboggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
123. Cheating is the only way the Fascists can win |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:25 AM Response to Reply #123 |
150. Cheating is not the ONLY way the Fascists can win. In 1933, they 'won' |
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vanboggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:52 AM Response to Reply #150 |
156. True, and I consider that cheating n/t |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
124. Yawn!!!! nt |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
128. Lets also call Governor Scott Walker out here as well |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
129. How Kerry Votes Were Switched To Bush Votes |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #129 |
139. ... |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 01:38 AM Response to Reply #129 |
152. I pray that we make sure this never happens again. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
130. So should the DINOs that voted for him in 2000! |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
133. George Bush stole the 2000 election and the Democrats sat back |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 09:35 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Excellent point that is highlighted perfectly in Capitalism: A love story. |
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DonCoquixote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
137. and they are in better |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #137 |
169. They are going to have a very difficult time. |
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orbitalman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
138. K & R |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-20-11 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
140. We really need to bring the voting system up to date. |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
160. For those of you denying this thread and calling it conspiracy theory I give you this. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
162. kr -- back tomorrow to read the article -- |
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tawadi (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-21-11 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
168. K&R |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
176. and the theft of the popular vote in 2004 when 25 percent of the vote in Ohio |
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Firebrand Gary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 01:01 AM Response to Reply #176 |
177. It's amazing to me that they do it out in the open. |
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Samantha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 09:07 AM Response to Reply #177 |
180. They have no shame |
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Zax2me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-22-11 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
178. And the economy still suffers today. From that one event. |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
187. And the Wimpocrats have allowed this |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-23-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
195. The dumbass GOPers went for it....got what they wished for...and wow |
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