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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:20 PM
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Why no American justice for American terrorist?
TREASON IS the only crime defined in the U.S. Constitution. It consists of levying war against the United States or in adhering to the nation's enemies, giving them aid and comfort. If everything we have been led to believe about Anwar al-Awlaki is true, then it is almost certain that he committed treason against the United States, and I shed no tears for his demise.

However, it seems rather clear that our president found al-Awlaki guilty of treason or felony without trial, and ordered his execution. However despicable we considered al-Awlaki to be, the U.S. Constitution denies to the president the authority to be judge, jury and executioner of any American citizen.

Al-Awlaki was not killed on a battlefield where he was engaged in combat with U.S. soldiers. He was killed in Yemen, a country where we are not engaged in military hostilities at all. Indeed, had he been shot with a pistol while on the road, the shooter would probably be guilty of murder under the local law of Yemen.

Our relief at knowing that a terrorist mastermind has been killed should not blind us to the serious implications of how he came to be executed. Unlike Osama bin Laden, who was not a U.S. citizen, was not killed on U.S. soil, and was not entitled to the benefits of the U.S. Constitution, al-Awlaki was a U.S. citizen, and, arguably, was entitled to the safeguards of our Constitution. On what legal basis, therefore, can the president of the United States issue an order to kill an American citizen?

Read more: http://articles.philly.com/2011-10-25/news/30320532_1_anwar-al-awlaki-citizen-treason
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:26 PM
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1. fuck him
sorry but if he's part of an army who's declared war on us then fuck him, he got what he deserved
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:32 PM
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2. Because fuck him, that's why
And if someone in a position of authority or power decides that you are a very bad person, the same thing can happen to you. Isn't that free and brave? Doesn't it make your breast swell with national pride? No? Then please refer back to the first sentence.

And, by the way, if the Constitution is to mean anything, it has to apply to every action taken by our government, whether domestically, overseas, visited on a citizen or a non-citizen, or it means nothing. And that's where we are today. This "bin Laden was not a U.S. citizen, was not killed on U.S. soil, and was not entitled to the benefits of the U.S. Constitution" argument, though well-worn and put forth often, is 100% wrong. We don't follow the Constitution and our treaty obligations as the ultimate legal authority for any person, we do it because that's what creates our nation. The president doesn't swear to preserve, protect and defend the United States, he swears to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution, because by doing so, that preserves, protects and defends the United States. Failing to follow our own laws destroys the United States. And no sophistic argument can change that.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-11 03:39 PM
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3. a few words on a secret document and any of us will be put on the kill list nt
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