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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:04 PM
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"I AM MORMON"
Edited on Sun Oct-30-11 04:05 PM by DearAbby
Since when did a church have to set up a PR Campaign? You don't see "I am catholic Ads" who is this targeted too, and why does it matter?

No one cares what religion you are. I don't go grocery store and ask the clerk what church he prays in. The topic never comes up.

Why the PR Campaign and who is sponsering it? Just stinks you know? Has that smell to it...ROVE SMELL
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:07 PM
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1. Here's one.
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:09 PM
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2. Faygo, you forgot to put a warning to your post!
Shame.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:11 PM
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4. It's an honest question
Edited on Sun Oct-30-11 04:13 PM by DearAbby
it's clear to me, that ad isn't targeting me. Why the PR thing? Out of all their history and persecution in the past. They have never spent millions on a complete PR Scheme "I AM LIKE YOU" campaign.

Who is the target of this campaign, and why. Honest question
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:25 PM
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14. That was Pristine O'Donnell's campaign, and she is a Catholic.
I think it's more or less the same thing.

The United Church of Christ advertises, too.

Maybe what you are getting at without being direct, is that the LDS Church is advertising to make it okay to vote for Willard? Mormons R Us?

Is that what you mean? If so, then I tend to agree with you.
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eeyore98 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:30 PM
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16. Yeah, the UCC advertises, but their ads are "we welcome gays", not "despite our bigotry and magic
underwear,we're regular folks just like you!"
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:29 PM
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22. I'm glad they do.
I have nothing against the UCC.

I wasn't comparing their beliefs.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:24 PM
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13. Isn't that from the "I is moran" campaign?
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:09 PM
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3. It is okay for cults to advertise
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:29 PM
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15. If there is truth in advertising
"'Come to Guyana, kill a Congressman, and drink poisoned Flavor Aid.' This paid advertisement was approved by the Peoples Temple."
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:14 PM
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5. I AM WEASEL!
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:15 PM
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6. Now that made me laugh
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:17 PM
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7. Reponse: "Thanks for the warning. I'm LGBT, and I
don't associate with bigots. Please take your evil beliefs and go away. Far away."

Mormons Tipped Scale in Ban on Gay Marriage

We’re going to lose this campaign if we don’t get more money,” the strategist, Frank Schubert, recalled telling leaders of Protect Marriage, the main group behind the ban.

The campaign issued an urgent appeal, and in a matter of days, it raised more than $5 million, including a $1 million donation from Alan C. Ashton, the grandson of a former president of the Mormon Church. The money allowed the drive to intensify a sharp-elbowed advertising campaign, and support for the measure was catapulted ahead; it ultimately won with 52 percent of the vote.

As proponents of same-sex marriage across the country planned protests on Saturday against the ban, interviews with the main forces behind the ballot measure showed how close its backers believe it came to defeat — and the extraordinary role Mormons played in helping to pass it with money, institutional support and dedicated volunteers.

“We’ve spoken out on other issues, we’ve spoken out on abortion, we’ve spoken out on those other kinds of things,” said Michael R. Otterson, the managing director of public affairs for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as the Mormons are formally called, in Salt Lake City. “But we don’t get involved to the degree we did on this.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/us/politics/15marriage.html?pagewanted=all

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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:20 PM
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9. Churches aren't supposed to be involved in politics, are they? Hmmmmm....
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:36 PM
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17. Churches are political by nature but do have some restrictions
Churches can

• Conduct nonpartisan voter registration

• Conduct nonpartisan get-out-the-vote activities

• Distribute nonpartisan voter guides

• Support or oppose legislation

• Support or oppose a ballot measure

• Support or oppose a political or judicial nominee

• Allow a candidate to speak at the church
(if not identified as a candidate and political campaign is not mentioned)

• Host a forum for political candidates where all candidates are invited

• Sell or rent church mailing list to a candidate at market value
(made available to all candidates)

• Offer bulletin or newsletter ads at market rate (made available to all candidates)


Churches Cannot…

• Support or oppose a political candidate

• Conduct political fundraising

• Provide a link on the church’s website to a candidate’s campaign website

• Contribute to political candidates

• Contribute to Political Action Committees (PACs)
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:22 PM
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11. I am not a bigot either...
Edited on Sun Oct-30-11 04:29 PM by DearAbby
I don't judge an individual based on what their church as a collective had done.. Just as I don't hate all Catholics because I disagree with the Pope.

All Americans could be hated for what our government has done in our name. I would hope there were open minded people out there. One can still believe and still disagree with their leadership.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:37 PM
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24. I WAS a Mormon, and I have this to say...
Edited on Sun Oct-30-11 05:41 PM by liberalmuse
This church is pumping millions of dollars of its own member's money to defeat gay marriage in states across the country. And unlike gays, they have an agenda and want everyone to be Mormon. My mom joined the Mormon church when I was 3, and one day when I was 15 and finally able to think for myself, I never went back. As a Mormon, I was taught being gay was a sin, and a 'sickness'. I hear from some Mormons that they are not against gay marriage, but if they tithe, they are financially supporting the Mormon church's anti-gay crusade. I cannot in any way, shape or form support this religion because of the harm and grief they have caused the gay community. I will be tolerant of the human beings who are Mormons, but I have no tolerance for the religion itself with its harmful belief system.
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DollyM Donating Member (837 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:19 PM
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8. not an original publicity slant . . .
I always have to wait and see if they are going to be a Mormon or a Phoenix in the commercials! LOL! (That online college has the same tag line in their commercial "I am a Phoenix" after they tell you all about themselves.)
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:22 PM
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10. Take one letter from "mormon" and you get "moron".
Just sayin'. :evilgrin:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:24 PM
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12. I noted that the regular missionary visits to this area have
diminished recently. Wonder if that has anything to do with trying to make Romney more palatable.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:54 PM
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18. "I AM AGNOSTIC"
...should be the next campaign. I believe in nothing.
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SoutherDem Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:54 PM
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19. It shouldn't matter what religion a candidate is but...
for many that isn't true. Also, sorry but many Christian churches teach that the LDS church is a cult. I have been in a Baptist church in which they invited a guest from another church to speak on cults which LDS was one of the top two, JW was the other. Please don't' get me wrong, I do not believe LDS is a cult, I am an Atheist I think all churches are praying to imaginary gods. However, I vote for the person, party or the lesser of the evils, no matter what imaginary god they pray to. By the way if we ever have an Atheist candidate I would not vote for them just because we agree spiritually if I felt he was the wrong person.
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SoDesuKa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 04:59 PM
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20. Mormon Truther
Utah physicist Steven E. Jones is a 9/11 truther and a Mormon. Jones believes the World Trade Center was brought down in a controlled demolition with the use of thermite.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/theories/thermite.html



Steven E. Jones, Ph.D.

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bengalherder Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:07 PM
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21. They actually stole the idea from scientologists
Edited on Sun Oct-30-11 05:09 PM by bengalherder
who had been running an "...and I am a scientologist" campaign for awhile.

Probably something to do with them both being cults and all.

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mwrguy Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:35 PM
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23. Mormons have been running these ads for many years.
I can remember similar ones back in the 70s.

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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:45 PM
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25. like any other cult/religion
they honestly believe that everyone thinks the world buys that the persona on the ad is the same persona behind closed doors, and in their secret temples. They are so elitist, so self possessed and narcissistic, they think the world is made up fools and they are there to help them 'see the light'....by whatever trickery is at their disposal.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 06:18 PM
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26. because the mormon cchurch is a BUSINESS first and church second? nt
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Sirveri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 06:52 PM
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27. They've been doing this for years now. I first saw them on youtube a while ago.
Probably back in 2008, maybe earlier.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 07:06 PM
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28. They potentially have Mormon candidates running for president
Plus they still have the bad associations from Prop8. Then there's the perception that they're not Christian enough (or at all) and that they're a cult. They have multiple reasons for a "We're nice, normal people just like everyone else" campaign.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 07:18 PM
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29. nothing new... churches do advertise
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 07:19 PM
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30. Get a Brain, Mormans!!


:D

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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 07:26 PM
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31. I want my magic undies.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 07:39 PM
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32. "Hear me roar"?
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