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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:38 AM
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Obama aligning with the Republicans is politically astute
When Obama sides with the Republicans, and against progressive Democrats, on things like business friendly regulation, cutting Social Security, extending the Bush tax cuts and amending health care reform, he is improving his image with independents who want the parties to work together. It will help him in the 2012 election.

The only problem is these things will COMPLETELY FUCK THIS COUNTRY UP!!!
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katnapped Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:39 AM
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1. One problem with that theory...
Republicans STILL aren't going to vote for him, and given the choice, independents will vote for the REAL Republican in the room.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:42 AM
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3. Yep, that's what will happen IMO. n/t
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:42 AM
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4. all independents are not R's - a good number of D's that are just
fed up with the 2-party system
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:40 AM
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2. That is exactly what he is doing.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:45 AM
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:48 AM
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6. Huh?
Obama cut social security????....I missed that news....and what's wrong with amending health care reform? All of us think the bill could have been better, right? Did Obama say he wants to amend it so that 30 million will not get coverage in a couple of years (which is what the repubs want)?

I don't see where Obama is aligning himself with Repubs....some people here live in fantasy world and keep to their narrative no matter what the facts are....sounds like FOX News.
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RegieRocker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:49 AM
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7. Catering to Indy's does not mean catering to the right
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 09:59 AM
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8. You've got that right.....
It's gatting very tiresome.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:09 AM
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9. Amending from bad to worse.

That's the only direction it an possibly go, ya know.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:45 AM
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14. no, i don't know....
Obama, who faught so hard to get health care reform, is never going to allow the bill to get worse under his watch....he put all his political capital in this bill....it's his baby....he's not going to sign a bill that makes it worse....some liberals are just so down on things no matter what the situation is....really sad....
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:13 AM
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18. dream on

His political capital is utterly squandered several times over. With a Republican dominated House it can only go one way given the President's propensity for 'compromise' and 'getting things done'.

Put down that 'hope' pipe, ain't nothin' but pipe dreams.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:19 AM
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10. I'll wait and see.
I think he stated the purpose of looking at regulations was to make jobs, not to be just business friendly. This, I hope, might include regulations that make it easy for business to ship jobs overseas to be recended .
Anyway, the man is way smarter than I am. He sees things many moves ahead and has proved my first reactions to his moves to be laughable. I can see this move on regulations as being positive for jobs more than businesses. The shellacking in the last election was about jobs and the economy.
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:23 AM
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11. Nope. When given the option, Rs will still vote for Rs. Independents will be pissed about SS cuts
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jtown1123 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:23 AM
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12. This also opens a window for REpublicans to say they're the defenders of Social Security and Medicar
just disgusting, really.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:23 AM
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13. I hear you but was going to add: it completely fucks up this country
as does the entire RW agenda and each and every RW venture. ;)
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 10:55 AM
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15. It won't help him with Independents who think both parties are two sides of the same corporate party
Edited on Wed Jan-19-11 10:58 AM by glitch
ALL the Independents I know, even the former Republicans, feel this way.

This move will help him with corporate backers, period.

Edit: otherwise agreed.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:11 AM
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16. He got the Independent vote when he was talking like a progressive
in the campaign. Much of the vote was lost after he began moving to the right in the 2010 election.

And if all he's thinking of is getting reelected then he never deserved to be president in the first place.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-11 11:12 AM
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17. Unrec for assuming.
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