Who here remembers the Chicago police riots of 1968 at the Democratic convention?

[county worker]

I think we will see the same thing in North Carolina in 2012.

[Vincardog]

1. You want us to get beat and shot with tear gas in 2012? Sounds like a plan to me

[county worker]

4. If the Democratic party keeps a deaf ear to the occupy movement

then I am sure there will be a lot of noise made at next year's convention.

[elleng]

2. I do; I was there.

Who is/will be 'boss' in NC? And why do you think such?

[county worker]

5. I think so because the Democrats will not speak up and support the ideals of OWS.

In 1968 I worked for Eugene McCarthy and they gave us Humphrey and Mayor Daily. People were pissed!

[elleng]

10. Right, and we ended up with WHO, for Pres?

I certainly hope OWS does not 'take over' NC, cause if it does it results in MORE problems for Prez O, who's been saddled with more serious problems than any President in recent memory, and THEN he'll have to face whomever repugs pony up.

I'd rather concentrate on congresscritters, including senate, than make a ruckus against Prez O.

[NYC_SKP]

38. You're right, elleng. It would be Nutty to march against Obama or the Dem Convention.

OWS won't do it, they're much smarter than that.

And, thank you for your service in Chicago!

:hug:

[elleng]

39. Thanks, and yvw;

actually helped people get out of the Cook County Jail in '68.

[hifiguy]

13. Well, I think we would have a much better country today

if Hubert Humphrey had been elected president. Not as good as if RFK had lived (and he would have crushed Tricky Dick in the general election) but a better one nonetheless. Humphrey was one of the greatest champions for civil rights and the poor that this country has seen since FDR.

[Jackpine Radical]

19. Hubert was an old-time New Dealer.

He was entrapped by Johnson's war policy. As a member of the Administration, he couldn't run against the war, and I really think a lot of people voted for Nixon because of his "secret plan." Remember that less than 20 years before, in 1952 Nixon ran on an end-the (Korean) War ticket with Ike. They won & they ended the war. Surely many people were suckered in by hopes that Crafty Richard would end the war faster than the Democrats who had escalated it. (And nobody knew anything about Nixon's role in creating the Vietnam mess in 1956. But that's a whole 'nother story.)

[hifiguy]

25. Indeed he was.

Only in the last couple of weeks of the campaign did LBJ let Humphrey speak for himself and not for the administration. And that was when HHH closed the gap very quickly. If Johnson had let Humphrey be his own man from the time of the convention, Humphrey would have won the presidency.

For a fascinating look at the dynamics of the LBJ/HHH relationship, read the "Orator of the Dawn" chapter in the third volume of Robert Caro's LBJ bio, Master of the Senate.

[elleng]

40. Yes, he was, but perceived as pro-Lyndon/war, that's what got us Nixon.

[Capitalocracy]

14. We've got a Daley in the White House now.

Could get ugly.

[elleng]

17. He's stepped aside, I think; moved to a somewhat different postion,

and not, prolly, in control of billy-clubs!

[DonCoquixote]

3. No.

Because people knopw that would be handing the GOP a victory. Where you WILL see violence is in Tampa, where anyone can get a shotgun at wal mart, and many tea party types will have them on hand. It is not a question of if there will be people shooting each other, but if it will be just OWS getting shot by GOP, or the tea oparty and GOP also fighting the second civil war, because they hate Mitt as much as Obama.

[county worker]

7. I don't agree.

The angst is against the Democrats because they are the ones who should support OWS. Everyone knows that expecting the repubs to change is pure fantasy.

[DemocracyInaction]

6. That Was "My" Era

I'm not longing to go back to it BUT I hope all of you realize that the government has made sure that we can never get that far again. In fact, OWS brings tears to my eyes because it is the farthest anyone has gotten since that time and for a couple months it has baffled the storm troopers. They don't know how to control it. Press on...finally a generation who again gets off it's butt!!!

[Zen Democrat]

8. What about Tampa ... where the 1% will convene?

[customerserviceguy]

32. The Rethugs would love that

It would make them into victims, rather than victimizers.

[mike_c]

9. I have been saying for some weeks now that if the occupy movement is to succeed...

...then the coming summer before the next election likely be similar to the summers of 1967 and 1968. And I say that like it's a good thing.

[DeSwiss]

11. I remember. n/t

[Capitalocracy]

12. Define remember...

That was 15 years before I was born, so I guess I can't say I remember it

[county worker]

28. I watched the convention on TV and they kept switching to the police beating people in the park.

Speakers were denouncing the cops and Mayor Daily was telling them to shut up.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Yep. A Democratic mayor sent in the thugs to "clear the parks" and "protect private property". .

[EFerrari]

16. I heard on Amy's headlines today that 18 police departments

are under federal review right now but I can't find the source. It would be good to know what that means, exactly, and which departments they are.

[Irishonly]

21. That's great!

[mmonk]

18. Me.

People were ignored then as well except in the street by authorities. Worries me.

[wryter2000]

20. I do

n/t

[spin]

22. Every 40 years or so our nation goes through a reboot ...

It seems to me that the next few years will be one of those times.

We need to take the control of our nation away from the Big Corporations, the 1% and the politicians that have sold out.

Let's hope that it will be a peaceful change but the probability is that some violence will occur as the 1% will not relinquish their power easily. I hope our side uses the power of nonviolence. I doubt if the 1% will.

edited to add comment

[Blue_In_AK]

23. I remember it very clearly.

It's why I didn't vote that year, even though it was the first year that I was eligible. It was just one more of the radicalizing events of those days.

[jaysunb]

24. i really hope not.

That fiasco went a long way in helping Nixon get elected.

[Javaman]

26. See my pic in my sig. nt

[demosincebirth]

27. We also lost the election, too. We will probably shoot ourselves in

the foot again it that happens. Seriously.

[Capitalocracy]

30. That election was lost more because of a shot in the back than a shot in the foot. nt

[demosincebirth]

42. Yea, right.

[CanSocDem]

29. There were SOME positive results.

They identified 8 distinct leaders of a mass protest, arrested them and put them on public display in an ill-advised nationally reported trial. A show trial that exposed the establishments' lack of legal and moral authority.

The trial gave us William Kunstler, Bobby Seale and Tom Hayden to name just three who gave a voice to some of the injustices of the day. They politicized a lot of people. They exposed the inherent brutality of mob police action.

I never was comfortable with the YIPPIES....they seemed to be an aberration of my preferred HIPPIE values. But I eventually had to applaud their revolutionary spirit and the consequences of their collective action. And they made it quite clear that the Democratic Party was every bit as part of the establishment as the war-mongering Republicans.

The Occupy movements around the country remind me of those days but I'm not sure they could survive another police riot.

.

[customerserviceguy]

31. I do

I was just a kid back then, almost a teenager, but I lived in the Chicago area, and the violence was on the local TV channels every night. As I recall, those riots and the race riots of 65-68 didn't go well for us, even with George Wallace bleeding off the most racist voters, Nixon still won.

[WCGreen]

33. I think they should go to the republican convention....

[Vinca]

34. I remember that . . . watched it on an old black and white television.

You could be right. Something's got to give.

[MedleyMisty]

35. I live in Charlotte

I plan to be there. I will report back to DU. :)

I don't remember 1968 though. Wasn't alive yet.

[freshwest]

36. Saw it as it happened and cried.

[bvar22]

37. Oh yes,

...and we are headed there again,
only it will be worse.
The Democratic Party is much more infested with Republicans than it was in 1968.

OTOH, many activists who have been disappointed by the "CHANGE" President of 2008
may choose to completely ignore the Democratic Party in 2012 as wasted effort.
That appears to be the general consensus among the OWS protestors
evidenced by the complete lack of "Obama 2012" posters,
and the aversion to both dominant political parties.
One thing is certain,
NONE of the OWS activists are happy with the Status Quo.

It WILL be an interesting year.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
Solidarity99!
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[jaxx]

41. Advocating for voters to stay home?

Voting is never a wasted effort. Jeez

[bvar22]

43. No.

I AM advocating FOR the Democratic Party I joined 46 years ago to openly, proudly, and publicly STAND UP unequivocally FOR the Working Class,
and return to the Traditional Democratic Party Values of FDR/LBJ that built a prosperous and expanding Working Class in America.

If they had used their Mandate for Change given to them by the American people in 2006 & 2008,
there wouldn't BE an OWS today.
They had better hurry too, because time is running out.

Really Simple.

Tick ...Tick ...Tick ...Tick

"The line it is drawn.
The die it is cast."

Choose wisely,
because Middle-of-the-Road ain't working.



You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
Solidarity99!
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[jaxx]

44. Time isn't running out, but the ability to put down the POTUS is.

Reality bites.

[bvar22]

45. Reality bites?

Maybe in your world.

We embrace Reality in mine.
It is what it is!
Have a nice day.
:hi:


Solidarity99!
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