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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 05:06 PM
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A Friday Afternoon Challenge you have prayed for: Very Cool Angels (ok, one is kinda creepy...).
Assembled below are angels as they appear in details of great art works. Who painted them?

(and please, dear gentlefolk, do observe the “no cheat” rule...)
1.

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.

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mcranor Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 05:28 PM
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1. Wild guess just to get things started...
These challenges are always over my head (doesn't stop me from enjoying them, though); number 5 looks like Marc Chagall, maybe from the opera house?

mc
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 05:30 PM
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2. Oh, goody, yes, you are right. It is Chagall.
I think it's cool that he's got these angels sitting a what looks like a picnic table at a barbecue with Abraham...that's just lovely in my mind!
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mcranor Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 05:47 PM
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4. You Don't Say! Abraham?
That I could never have guessed. Closer look tells me it's a canvas (not the opera house). What do you think is going on in the upper right corner?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 05:48 PM
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6. uh, oh...bet you're gonna tell me!
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 05:42 PM
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3. "There are four corners on my bed, there are four angels on my spread,
Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, may God bless the bed that I lay on." Sorry, that's all I can offer but do so appreciate the beautiful art.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 05:47 PM
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5. Oh, that is so sweet...
but this painting ain't sweet...it absolutely creeps me out...that angel don't look too nice to me...
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 06:11 PM
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7. #4 just makes me think Michelangelo, but I'm probably wrong. n/t
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 06:28 PM
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9. no, but close in the era...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 06:25 PM
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8. #3 Botticelli
Reminds me of Mars in Primavera.
Wonder if it was the same model?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 06:30 PM
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10. probably. Any artist that puts a corsage on angel wings can't be bad in my book!
And his levitation! And the squiggly toes! How cool is that...

Botticelli had to outdo his master Lippi and so we have this lovely outpouring from him. How lucky for us!

I am knocked out by this angel...
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:12 PM
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16. He does levitation and floating so well
Didn't note the corsage until you pointed it out - lovely!
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:21 PM
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20. My guess, too
Looks like the same style as Birth of Venus
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 06:34 PM
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11. Is #4 Michelangelo?
If so, how appropriate!

It looks like his style.

:hi:
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:20 PM
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19. That's my guess, too
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:31 PM
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22. No. No Michelangelo here...but you are close to the era...look at the style
as it changes from High Renaissance to.....????
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 06:40 PM
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12. I guessed No. 5 might be Chagall - no, really
But number 6 looks like Merry and Pippin at a night of carousing in the Green Dragon just outside Hobbiton. But you say it's angels, huh? O-o-o-kay.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:32 PM
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23. Yep. First one guessed above...a charming and lovely work...
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:36 PM
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24. Yep, this is where the 15th century could just go crazy on stuff. It is in a larger
work celebrating a big deal in heaven...so of course they are dancing...I think it is charming...
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some guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 06:46 PM
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13. # 1 = Dali?
:D

I don't know anything else about it, but I think it might be Dali.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:40 PM
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25. No, Dali could go over the top but #1 definitely belongs to the 15th century...
the get-up of this angel probably wouldn't have been tolerated later...look at the stripes!

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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:22 PM
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35. Hmmm How are the stripes significant? nt
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:28 PM
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38. Well, I wondered about that but the red and white business didn't make any sense.
I dunno. Maybe the artist just wanted to be "out there" and felt he could be with the subject of the painting...rejoicing, and all that...
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 06:46 PM
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14. Number 6 is the Furniture Twins, the Keno brothers
On Antiques Roadshow.

That was a very bad joke. :D

Got no idea, except for the Chagall which has already been identified.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:40 PM
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59. LOL!
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 06:51 PM
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15. Did you ever notice how in the Bible,
when ever God needed to punish someone, or make an example, or whenever God needed a killing, he sent an angel? Did you ever wonder what a creature like that must be like? A whole existence spent praising your God, but always with one wing dipped in blood. Would you ever really want to see an angel?
- 'The Prophecy' 1995
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:41 PM
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26. You have nailed the truth of one of these paintings....which one?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:15 PM
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17. One day I'll get them
:hi:
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:20 PM
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18. Is 3 Botticelli?
I can't figure out the others. 4 maybe Michaelangelo?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:42 PM
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27. #3 yes. # 4 no
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:24 PM
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21. Dumb question about #4
Why are the angels legs blue? Is that purposeful, or is that because of age? It looks so odd for him to have a golden chest and then blue legs. I thought at first they were tights, but you can see his toes.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:45 PM
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28. maybe because this is the era for that...I usually dislike this era but I make an exception
Edited on Fri Nov-18-11 07:51 PM by CTyankee
for this artist because his hand is so fine. But things got a little weird after the high Renaissance until it all settled down in the Baroque. In between it was difficult, but I like the way this artist dealt with it...crazy, tho it is...oh well.

Also, the whiteness of the skin here...that is a disturbing thing about this era...people got very bleached out...you have to wonder what happened...in the Renaissance everybody had normal skin and then, boom. everybody got as white as sand on a beach...what the hell...?
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Aerows Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:50 PM
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29. So it was purposeful
Interesting. Maybe from a distance it looks better. It just struck me as sort of peculiar to see the golden chest and the blue legs and arms.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 07:53 PM
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30. I really have to wonder about this period of art. It mystifies me.
What I "think" is that folks were weirded out by the Reformation and the religious wars and they just got crazy. But I really don't know...it's an oddity...
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:34 PM
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40. Michael the Archangel's legs
Aerows, not a dumb question for sure!

I googled St. Michael legs Bronzino and found that art historian Janet Cox-Rearick addresses this! She seems to theorize that the golden torso is a sort of diaphenous armor, while the limbs are done in a "marble-like sculptural" style in homage to Michelangelo's sculptures. She presents a lot of evidence that Bronzino was quite an admirer of Michelangelo.

Here's a link to that. Hope it works.
http://books.google.com/books?id=u0qDanMDrtQC&pg=PA105&lpg=PA105&dq=bronzino+st.+michael+legs&source=bl&ots=fffkCZKbKN&sig=O_mDCOLa3Q5dTRaGumSRwsu65Dc&hl=en&ei=pPjGTsnrGMbb0QHA-pj8Dw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=bronzino%20st.%20michael%20legs&f=false


horseshoecrab
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:43 PM
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44. I can see that. Bronzino is properly in the Mannerist era but you can see he resisted
some of the craziness of that era and embraced Michelangelo's secularism and classicism. But, dang, they loved the whiteness in that Mannerist style, didn't they? Things got so bleached out...but I do like Bronzino...he didn't go that far...
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:09 PM
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47. Yes!
Bronzino is definitely straddling. Reaching back into high renaissance and much more reality based color. His portraiture is beautiful.

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:10 PM
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31. Well, we have #3 and #5 identified, Hey folks, any more guesses?
Major hint with #6: a little problem with a nun...
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:18 PM
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32. Well, your hint does not help me a tad
because I know squat about art... but love these threads!!

I have to say that #2 absolutely captivated me! Don't know why exactly. I think I loved looking at all the details.\

Keep on educating me!

:hi:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:26 PM
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36. #2 is very interesting. Notice how tiny the angel is!
The palm frond is very telling. It is not a good thing when an angel comes into your bedroom with a black palm frond...at least not in Renaissance paintings...

This painting actually frightens me...
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:34 PM
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41. The angel is tiny?
Are angels normally really, really big? Just looked "normal" size to me.

And I didn't even notice the black palm frond. I saw the dog (?) at the foot of the bed... and a crown at the foot of the bed. And is there a note or piece of paper there as well?

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:40 PM
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43. The angel looks really small compared to the woman in the bed, I think.
Edited on Fri Nov-18-11 08:45 PM by CTyankee
And that is a bit strange, I think.

A palm frond offered by an angel was not a good sign...

The crown is significant as to the identity of the sleeping woman...who she was and what her destiny would be...

I don't really know what the piece of paper was about...probably not good given her outcome...
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:13 PM
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49. I think it must be a martyred saint, but I'm not sure which one. St. Agatha?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:17 PM
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51. not agatha but you are on the right path...
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:17 PM
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52. St. Barbara in her tower? It looks like three windows.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:21 PM
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53. No, but I can see what you are saying...
It is interesting because this painting is often used to illustrate what bedrooms used to look like in the Renaissance. It is so well documented here! Since furniture and drapes often didn't survive the years, we have to depend on art works like this to find out the social history of these people. Fascinating, isn't it. You can't get over the detail...

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:33 PM
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56. St.Ursula by Carpaccio!
I found it by googling martyred saints and renaissance paintings, so totally cheated.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:39 PM
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57. no, you didn't cheat! You followed hints that I gave and you gathered from the thread...
all perfectly good! I'm glad you did. I love research because you never know what you'll find on the way!

Good for you!

but it is creepy
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:40 PM
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58. Yes, it is a horrific story. Like so many stories of martyred saints.
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:20 PM
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33. #4
Hi CTyankee! Good to see you. :hi:

#4 is by Agnolo Bronzino. It depicts St. Michael the Archangel dispensing with Satan.


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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:27 PM
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37. Hey, do you know Bronzino?
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horseshoecrab Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:59 PM
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45. Just since this evening!
Aware of the name Bronzino by having had the name memorized as a Mannerist.

Lucked out and found it by a search on St. Michael, satan, mannerist, ceiling. (It looked like this was definitely a ceiling sort of work.)

I need to appreciate mannerists more often! Very fine work.

Thanks CTyankee, as always! :-)


horseshoecrab

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:13 PM
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48. I don't much like the Mannerists! Bronzino seems like an anomaly.
This particular work is nice, however. And it is very fine work, indeed. But I don't like a lot of Fiorentino or Pontormo. For one thing, I don't like that the Mannerists "lost" linear perspective. That bothers me. All I can surmise is that the Reformation unhinged them and this reflects a sense of disorder in society at this time...
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:20 PM
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34. Is #1 Fouquet? (n/t)
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:32 PM
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39. wow, you know about Fouquet? He's something isn't he?
But no, not him...
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 08:38 PM
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42. Hey, #s 1, 2 and 6 left to guess!
What is the message of #2...that might give you a hint...
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IcyPeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:00 PM
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46. number 2 reminds me...
of jan van eyck, but I can't find any proof.

also number one reminds of a tarot card - like the opening sequence of "Carnivale", the short lived HBO series. (not that it is a tarot card.... just sayin')
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:16 PM
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50. #2 is not van eyck. Wrong country...
since I am not familiar with tarot cards I cannot comment on what you said about #1. However, with regard to #1 it is one of those situations with artists where they can let loose and make some beautiful, joyful scenes, as this one is. It is full of musical angels playing instruments and as such is a lovely, Renaissance moment in art...
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:23 PM
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54. Another marvelous quiz....Thank you so much.
I can't answer any, but I had never seen and absolutely love #2....So thank you for bringing it here.
:)
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:29 PM
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55. It is fascinating. I'll p.m. you with the artist and the work so you can look it up.
It's one of those paintings that just holds you...
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:45 PM
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60. Got it and replied.
Thank you so much. :)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 09:48 PM
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61. #1 has such a unique style. I feel like I should recognize it....
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 10:01 PM
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62. Well this is really bugging me. That last one, is it Raphael?
Kind of like bumping into an old acquaintance on the street or a place out of context
and trying to recall their name. Argh!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:19 AM
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66. No Raphael here, altho he did angels! Also, this artist preceded
Raphael by some 80 years...
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 10:25 PM
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63. Are #1 and #2 Michaelangelo and Renoir?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:19 AM
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67. Neither one unfortuntately...
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 10:45 PM
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64. I'm probably totally and completely wrong here, but...
Edited on Fri Nov-18-11 11:09 PM by blue neen
is it possible that #6 is Lippi?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:20 AM
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68. Which Lippi?
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:28 AM
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70. Filippo
lippo lippi!
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 07:28 AM
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72. I'd love to know how you got to Lippi...
is his stuff a personal favorite of yours?
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 09:38 AM
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74. It was the faces of the angels. There's something very distinctive about them.
I knew that I had seen similar faces before. We have a book about famous artists. It's very descriptive about the artists lives, who they studied with, etc., accompanied by one work of art. I had read that book cover to cover.

In this instance, the one work was "Madonna and Child", so #6 really looked like Lippi to me. You were kind enough to give the hint about the nun, so that pretty much nailed it down.

The only picture that was instantly recognizable for me was #3, the Botticelli. There's something about his work that sets it apart from everyone else's. Like one of the posters said, he does floating and levitation so well.

It would be a wonderful thing if everyone in this country could go to the National Gallery of Art. When my husband and I walked in there it was a feeling of, "So this is what heaven looks like." A favorite section there was the Rembrandt's, followed by the Impressionists. Oh my.

So, I'm not an art expert at all, but certain works of art really stay in my soul.

How about you? Are you well educated on art? What really appeals to you?

Thank you again. It was great fun! :)
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 03:14 PM
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75. I'm doing art history in retirement. I travel when I have enough money .
I've done intensives in Florence, Paris and last month Holland. The Rembrandts, Hals, Bruegels, van eycks and Van Goghs finally reduced me to tears. But I think they were tears of joy, actually...

I've been doing this Challenge for about a year and a half here at DU. It's fun and I'm glad you have joined in! I'm off for Thanksgiving next week but I may do one the following week (on Thursday)....keep an eye out for it...
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-11 11:03 PM
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65. I call "Uncle" on number 2.
Giotto? No, that can't be right.

This quiz was great...thank you so much for engaging my brain this evening...very enjoyable. :)
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 01:21 AM
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69. See above...
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 02:33 AM
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71. Ah, okay. Carpaccio.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-19-11 08:18 AM
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73. Here are the answers to the Challenge and another treat for you!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2342799

Thanks to everyone who joined the Challenge! See you in a couple of weeks!
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