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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:50 PM
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“How Could This Happen in America?” Why Police Are Treating Americans Like Military Threats
http://www.protestation.org/blog/how-could-this-happen-in-america-why-police-are-treating-americans-like-military-threats/

In the past few days, those and similarly poignant Twitter posts have appealed to fundamental American values in objecting to the notorious U.C. Davis event, where police pepper-sprayed seated protesters, and to cities generally cracking down on the Occupy movement. The crackdowns have brought a military level of combativeness to what many Americans — even those not in sympathy with the protesters — would normally see as a police, not a military matter.

Police, not military. The distinction may seem academic, even absurd, when police are bringing rifles, helmets, armor, and helicopters to evict unarmed protesters. But it’s an old and critical distinction in American law and ideology and in republican thought as a whole. The 17th-century English liberty writers, on whose ideas much of America’s founding ethos was based, believed that turning the armed might of the state, (necessary in waging war against foreign enemies), to domestic policing of local communities tends to concentrate power in top-down executive action and vitiate treasured things like judiciary process, individual liberty, representative government, and free speech.

Constabulary and judiciary matters, high Whigs came to think, should never be handled by what they condemned as “standing armies.” It’s true, on the other hand, that keeping public order, not just aiding in prosecutions, is a duty of local police. When concerted crowd violence occurs against people and property, policing may be expected to be pretty violent too, and distinctions between combat and policing sometimes naturally blur.

But where protest is peaceful — maybe loud, maybe deliberately annoying, combative in its rhetoric, even possibly illegal, yet not actually violent or dangerous — treating it the way a state normally treats an outside military threat will give many Americans, across a broad political spectrum, a gut problem.

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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:57 PM
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Edited on Fri Nov-25-11 01:58 PM by PETRUS
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PETRUS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 01:58 PM
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2. Hey, I finished reading that just before you posted! K&R
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:00 PM
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3. This is nothing, US history is full of much worse. But yeah. nt
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Fantastic Anarchist Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:12 PM
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4. The police exist to maintain the capitalist social order ...
... in protecting private property from the laboring class (should they ever get wise to the theft and historical injustice of the owning class) - and by private property, I mean the mode of production, not your sweatshirt.
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:42 PM
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7. Exactly. If you want proof, step out of line a little. The country is owned
and the police are the owners military.
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Fantastic Anarchist Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 03:07 PM
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9. Yes, and at this point ...
It's intimidation at this point. Private property, at this juncture, is still secure. People are only exercising their rights, but the wealthy know that things can get out of hand, so to nip it in the bud, exercising your rights becomes "criminal" de facto. That's so the idea of the historical heist doesn't spread - to the point where the private mode of production is actually in peril.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:23 PM
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5. we have no more freedoms, it's a police state. America is not what it used to be
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:40 PM
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6. Looks like it's going to get worse before it gets better....
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-11 02:43 PM
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8. It happened because 80% of Americans were fucking cowards
when Junior and his mafia....came into power.....
torture all in the name of security....except that abuse and torture always moves beyond the so called original intent..

security in airports where babies diapers are searched and elderly folks are invasively searched and exray machines that no one else in the world uses...because they are not proven to work....

Whether we condoned it or sat back passively....Americans allowed this to happen....

We allowed the deregulation of the markets and the concentration of power in America to 400 people and the corporations.....

We have the power to change this because of our numbers....the question is what are we going to do...

Are we going to continue to attack the only man standing between us and a complete Corporate takeover of America....or are we going to recognize that although not perfect we can set the stage for 2016?.....We cannot afford to lose what we have or can gain on the Supreme Court.....
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-11 07:27 PM
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10. Kick
RECALL WALKER/KLEEFISCH!!!
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