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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-07-14 01:06 AM
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Judge rules drivers can flash lights to warn of police presence
The judge says not allowing drivers to flash their lights in warning violates First Amendment rights.

US District Judge Henry Autrey in St. Louis wrote, "Detaining, ticketing, or arresting someone for the content of their speech is illegal."

The suit came after Michael Elli was given a ticket in Ellisville, Missouri when he flashed his lights to warn drivers about police ahead.

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A law professor told the St. Louis Times-Dispatch “this has sweeping implications for the First Amendment. What this citizen is doing is warning other citizens about the violation of law."

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http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/judge-rules-drivers-can-flash-lights-warn-police-p/ndGXF/
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-07-14 05:20 AM
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1. Good morning, rpannier! No one flashed their lights at me
two years ago and it resulted in a speeding ticket. Poop!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-07-14 04:47 PM
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2. Thanks, rpannier
Hmm. I don't know what to say. I feel silly saying that I disagree with a law professor about how sweeping this is, but I see nothing new.



What this citizen is doing is warning other citizens about the violation of law.
I don't even know what that means.


What the citizen flashing the light is doing is warning citizens that an LEO is nearby so that the citizen knows to STOP violating the law. It's a signal with a well-known meaning to the drivers in that area. It's no different--but probably less dangerous--than rolling down the window and yelling "LEO coming" or "Slow down."

Anyone ever been arrested for yelling slow down to a speeding driver? If they were arrested for that, would you expect them to get off on First Amendment grounds if they claimed that protection in court?

I don't get it.
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