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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 10:51 PM Original message |
Lawrence is naming statistics that prove that Catholics are the largest progressive... |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
1. All the proof is right here: |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. How much of that "charity" is "no strings attached?" |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. in my experience, none |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 03:26 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Huh? I'm confused by your response... |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. In my experience, there are no strings attached |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. No, it isn't. Could you type slower next time? |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 08:50 AM Response to Reply #54 |
66. O |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. All you have to do is clink the link and scroll to the bottom of the page |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. I guess what frustrates me is... |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #32 |
44. No religious charity comes with no strings attached. And you know what? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. Given the demographic changes... |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Sure it is not "lies and propaganda" instead of "denial"? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Oh, I'm sure there is plenty of that as well... |
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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. That is very true |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. they just watch too much Wm. Donahue from his one man band. |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 07:54 AM Response to Reply #6 |
18. As Lawrence (and others) have mentioned, it's the media that made him a 'spokesman' for Catholics. |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. We got a kook who writes 3-4 times a week in the paper.... |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. Catholicism has always placed a strong emphasis on social justice |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. +1 |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 03:19 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Abortion is the only moral issue they preach about? Are we forgetting GLBT civil rights? |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. I'd advise you to see what local churches are actually doing |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. In my experience, you are totally correct. |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Radical Catholics are as truly socialist as any self-congraluatory progressive on this website |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:34 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Yes, and they don't hesitate to claim that socialist background, either. ^_^ |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Thanks so much for your memories and the history - fascinating |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. Yes it has! |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. Not around here. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-23-11 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. Always been true--at least in 20th century and beyond. It's just that |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
57. Catholics, as opposed to the Roman Catholic Church |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
11. Catholics tend to be really progressive or really reactionary |
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LynneSin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
12. I live in a big catholic neighborhood here in Delaware and they are all progressives.... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 02:55 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. So, they recognize the human rights of the GLBT community now? The embrace Planned Parenthood? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. I know many Catholics who have "recognized" GLBT rights for a lot of years. |
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LAGC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:53 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Our problem isn't with lay Catholics, its with the leadership. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. You are correct, bobbolink, |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
56. I'm a lesbian |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
13. That is almost correct. |
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etherealtruth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 03:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Though small I would add the UCC to your list |
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markpkessinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
53. Agreed, and I would also add... |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
14. Homophobic ,ainti-birth control, anti-pro choice, no women in the clergy. Yep, progressive... |
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olegramps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:38 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. There are two churches. The church of the bishops and the church of the laity. |
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GoCubsGo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Exactly right. |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I agree |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 12:18 AM Response to Reply #14 |
65. 60 Minutes did a piece on the archbishop of New York and what an asset he was. When asked |
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ReggieVeggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
20. uh, ya ever heard of Bill Donahue? |
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CBGLuthier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:05 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Oh MY God. Your finding exactly ONE example refutes the entire OP |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:28 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Not to mention Donahue's "organization" consists almost exclusively of him |
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ReggieVeggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 07:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. You don't honestly think Bill Donahue is the only right-wing catholic, do you? |
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sandyo--ERA (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
27. Catholics are teh largest progressive Christian group in America? Says WHO? |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
28. Hmm, that's not my experience.. |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:56 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. It's mine. |
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Nickigrace (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
29. Conservative Catholics |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Hello. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. Sorry, not different on the East Coast, |
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ReggieVeggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
60. Welcome to DU! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
36. I know that many Catholics are Progressive, but that is not the |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
39. Our parish is very much oriented by Social Justice issues. |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 10:03 PM Response to Reply #39 |
59. Well said |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-25-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. We're straight. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
62. Some Catholic Churches (under gread penalty) and Protestant Churches are breaking off because of |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
48. Wojityla, Ratzinger's George W, |
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Aerows (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
55. I went to Catholic High School |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Lot's of those Nuns and even some Priests did very good teaching kids about Govenment |
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JanMichael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
58. In terms of numbers maybe. In terms of percent I'd go with Quakers and... |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
61. Lawrence is Opus Dei...but that's Okay...we have our Right Wing Evangelicals... |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-24-11 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
64. don't liberal states like Massachusettes have a lot of Catholics ? |
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