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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:27 PM
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Press release from the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) responding to recent attention
Edited on Wed Mar-30-11 08:46 PM by highplainsdem
This is the press release at Emailwire.com

http://www.emailwire.com/release/60613-Setting-the-record-Straight-Much-ado-about-nothing.html

Setting the record Straight – Much ado about nothing

By Ms. Raegan Weber, ALEC


(EMAILWIRE.COM, March 30, 2011 ) Washington, D.C. (Mar. 30, 2011) - Over the past several weeks, there has been great speculation, poor reporting, and gross misrepresentation of the American Legislative Exchange Council’s (ALEC) positions on pension reform and collective bargaining. The erroneous claims have traveled through the blogosphere and grabbed the attention of mainstream media. Unfortunately, due to little or no fact-checking, ALEC’s positions and activities have been misreported. ALEC is setting the record straight.

With more than 2,000 members, ALEC is the nation's largest, non-partisan, individual public-private membership association of state legislators. ALEC’s legislative members are comprised of both Democrats and Republicans who share the same ideals. ALEC does not coordinate with any political party. ALEC is a state legislative organization with the goal of promoting Thomas Jefferson’s principles of limited government, free markets, and federalism through sound policy solutions. This goal is shared by like-minded lawmakers across the United States.

ALEC provides an opportunity for its members to learn from each other and policy experts representing a variety of issue areas affecting our citizens and our economy. This interaction enables legislators to learn best practices and successes from other states. Legislators present, suggest and debate sound policies, which may be adopted as ALEC model legislation. Legislators should have the best information possible when making policy decisions. Our policies and initiatives are public and we are proud to support our legislators as they carry out ALEC principles. The complexity and diversity of ALEC’s public and private sector members logically suggest that there are differing opinions on almost every policy position. ALEC is also pleased to provide an environment of education to help them find sensible policy solutions to today’s complex issues.

How does pension reform and collective bargaining fit in? ALEC has been educating its members for years on sound budget practices; this includes pension reform and transparency in collective bargaining. Unsustainable cost drivers threaten the financial solvency of the states. ALEC encourages states to explore every option possible to balance budgets, including pension reform and utilizing new approaches for pension funding, such as defined benefit plans. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics at the U.S. Department of Labor, as of December 2010, state and local government employees received benefits that were 69 percent higher than those in the private sector. Taxpayer dollars are currently subsidizing the majority of state public employee pensions and benefits (9 states have defined-contribution plans). Defined-contribution 401(k) style plans allow employees to contribute as much or as little as they want while still receiving some support from the state. They also give employees the opportunity to invest in what’s best for them, and if public employees change jobs or relocate, their funds are portable.

State legislators are entrusted with the enormous responsibility of appropriating citizens’ funds. ALEC supports budget transparency in the proper use of taxpayer dollars. When state employee unions collectively bargain with the people’s money, this should be a transparent process. Citizens have the right to know where their money is going and how it is being used.

ALEC has a policy initiative on pension reform and balancing budgets. The Budget Reform Toolkit and Other Post Employee Benefits publications were both nationally announced and mailed to all our legislative members. Rich States, Poor States is used by state legislators throughout the country to find sound, conservative, successful budgeting practices. Each of these publications discusses pension reform. Our policy initiatives, publications and press releases on these issues can all be found on ALEC’s website for anyone’s use. These are hardly the actions of a secretive organization.

Accusations of ALEC secretly meeting with governors, ALEC running and coordinating ground campaigns against public employee unions, and ALEC wanting to eliminate public employee unions are first and foremost not true. ALEC’s States and Nation Policy Summit coincided with newly-elected governors’ meetings at the White House in December, but there were no meetings between governors and ALEC staff on any policy. If a governor’s policies fall under the Jeffersonian principles of limited government, free markets and federalism, and ALEC has policies similar to those being proposed, then ALEC proudly supports those policies. ALEC does not have satellite offices. We have 27 full-time employees that work in Washington, D.C. ALEC has not sent out “ground troops” to Wisconsin. ALEC is not coordinating a ground campaign on collective bargaining.

These wild accusations have caught the attention of the mainstream media. Quite a few reporters from state and local media have called or emailed with an unfortunate biased agenda. ALEC has been working with the New York Times and Wall Street Journal over the past couple of weeks to satisfy their inquiries. Both nationally renowned, leading papers have decided after extensive research, interviews and fact checking that there is no story. ALEC appreciates their fact-finding missions and will continue to enjoy good relationship with both newspapers.

ALEC legislators and ALEC employees are proud of our positions and policies. ALEC is for effective and efficient use of taxpayer dollars with transparency in budgeting and collective bargaining. ALEC is for public employees having flexible, manageable and sustainable pension and health plans. ALEC is proud to be the only state legislative organization that embraces the Jeffersonian principles of limited government, free markets and federalism with the policy solutions to support these ideals.

For a more in-depth ALEC statement, go to www.alec.org/thetruth.

# # #

Ms. Weber is the senior director for public affairs at ALEC. She has been a professional communicator for nearly 14 years and was a public employee in the State of Georgia and in the federal government with the George W. Bush Administration.




Editing to add the two paragraphs on that page on the ALEC site that appear to be the only ones omitted from the press release. These follow the paragraph in the release above that ends, "These are hardly the actions of a secretive organization."

http://www.alec.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Setting_the_record_Straight_Much_ado_about_nothing

This brings the discussion to Voter ID. ALEC recently received an inquiry from a liberal blogger asking only about our position on Voter ID. Unfortunately, the “reporter” had his own agenda and chose to write a story with many false accusations and statements that had nothing to do with Voter ID. ALEC supports citizens providing a photo ID when voting in order to reduce voter fraud. A photo ID is required to rent a video from the store, so why not to vote? Each election cycle, statistics show that convicted felons and even the deceased are still voting. Showing a photo ID would help this immensely. The model legislation that was posted with this story does not specifically address what states should use for ID. ALEC leaves this to the decision to each state. This information was omitted from the “article.”

ALEC does not have “a concerted national effort to stop people from voting.” Citizens should exercise their right to vote. The most disappointing aspect of this poorly reported story is the follow up stories from mainstream media. Rachel Maddow of MSNBC chose to report that ALEC is behind a movement to limit people from voting. A columnist from the National Journal also chose to write an editorial based on a liberal blogger’s misrepresentation of information. Neither MSNBC nor the National Journal conducted any legitimate fact checking by going to the original source. NPR has run similar stories regarding ALEC’s position on Voter ID, but the most egregious offense by NPR was the misrepresentation of ALEC's positions on prison overcrowding and the nature of our organization. ALEC will certainly be hesitant to accept any future interviews from these media sources.



Editing again to add excerpts from the ALEC page that link about NPR goes to, which is their statement on the NPR story in October of last year:

http://www.alec.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Statement_from_ALEC_on_NPR_Story_dated_10_29_10

October 29, 2010

Statement from ALEC on NPR Story dated 10/29/10

-snip-

A recent NPR story noted ALEC as a “secretive organization” that rarely allows press interviews and cultivates back-door lobbying. This could not be further from the truth, as noted by NPR visiting ALEC offices to gather information. In addition, key policy positions on prison overcrowding were provided to NPR, yet never made the online or audio version of the story.

ALEC has open doors and phone lines to the press. The press is invited to attend all ALEC meetings. ALEC’s mission, policies, initiatives and contact information for all employees is available on the public web site at www.alec.org. Media announcements about ALEC’s publications, news and invitations to the meetings can also be found on this public web site. NPR was welcomed by Michael Bowman, senior director of policy, and Raegan Weber, senior director of public affairs, to learn about our policies and procedures. NPR was provided with ALEC’s position on prison overcrowding and was directed to that area of ALEC’s web site, which is to reduce the non-violent prison population in order to save taxpayer costs. This is contradictory to NPR’s baseless report that ALEC supports building more prisons.

ALEC is a private organization similar to membership organizations such as the YMCA. Federal law allows non-profits to protect the privacy of non-profit donors, but requires all non-profits to publicly disclose annual financial reports. ALEC fully complies with all federal and state requirements. ALEC’s public and private membership brochures are available on ALEC’s web site. ALEC is supported by hundreds of non-profits, corporations, foundations and individuals. Members can bring draft legislation before task forces to become ALEC policy. The policies are debated and voted on by all members. Public and private members vote separately on policy. It is important to note that laws are not passed, debated or adopted during this process and therefore no lobbying takes place. That process is done at the state legislatures.

ALEC meeting agendas are made public on the web site at www.alec.org. Meeting schedules are packed with education seminars on industry and public policy. If legislators are to establish laws to regulate business, they should be provided opportunities to learn from industry and policy experts how laws and regulations affect the economy. In the U.S., we are fortunate to live in a free-market, free-speech society where citizens, organized groups and businesses can have a voice in the development of their laws and regulations. It is the U.S. entrepreneurs, businesses and working Americans that will lead our country in sustainable economic growth and stability. Just like teachers, farmers and ranchers, senior citizens, and other groups, businesses have the right to representation and to inform legislators about their industry.

-snip-



Obviously they're on the defensive after a lot of media attention, and especially the attention that followed Professor Cronon's blog about them and the WI GOP's ill-advised demand for his emails.

It's interesting to read their attempt to defend themselves, but personally, I'll trust NPR, Mother Jones, and the rest of the media, as well as bloggers who do careful research, over ALEC's own version of what's going on.


If you check my compilation topic on the American Legislative Exchange Council, you'll find a reply about that NPR story as well as lots of other information about ALEC.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:33 PM
Response to Original message
1. Well, if making their PDF public amounts...
Edited on Wed Mar-30-11 08:33 PM by Scuba
...to "speculation, poor reporting, and gross misrepresentation" then I'm guilty.



http://www.alec.org/am/pdf/tax/Budget_toolkit.pdf

(edited for typo)
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. I posted about it, too, Scuba, both in the compilation topic I linked to in the OP,
and in a separate topic here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x658572

I think the toolkit shows just how damaging their ideas and model legislation are.

You have to give them an A for creativity, though, with such ideas as giving state employees who suggest property that could be considered "surplus" -- including surplus parks -- a share of the proceeds to "incentivize" them to help sell off the state's property.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:02 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. Thanks for doing so. Being an informed voter is the first act of patriotism. n/t
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. I agree. I wish we knew of all the bills copying ALEC's templates, and which corporations
helped write them. What we have so far is piecemeal information. But even that is alarming.
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Professor Cronon seems to have a good grip...
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. I agree, and I'm so glad he blogged about ALEC and drew so much attention to it.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
2. Bald Faced Lie
Edited on Wed Mar-30-11 08:47 PM by Botany
"Accusations of ALEC secretly meeting with governors, ALEC running and coordinating ground campaigns against public
employee unions, and ALEC wanting to eliminate public employee unions are first and foremost not true."

ALEC is the playbook from which the governors and legislatures have been working from without a doubt.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. With the truth about them getting out, and the legislation they promote so unpopular,
they're desperate to shore up their image.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #4
5. It is the playbook from which they have been working
And John Kasich has been on board from day one.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. Yes, and Kasich is a disaster for Ohio.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:10 PM
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9. Gee, for an organization that likes "limited government"
They sure like using the vast power of government to achieve their goals.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #9
10. Fortunately more and more people can see what they're up to.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Yes. And the Koch brothers are getting WAY more attention than they'd like
These people like to operate from the sidelines. Calling them out is their WORST NIGHTMARE.
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socialist_n_TN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Agreed. That was my first thought.....
Anytime you see something like this from a group that likes to work behind the scenes (the Kochs also), you know you're getting to them.

Keep at it professional left! :) Expose these fuckers like the kochroaches they are.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 10:13 PM
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15. Such a deal I have for you!

ALEC is the nation's largest,
non-partisan, individual public-private membership association of state legislators.

Non-partisan? ALEC? A Koch snorters-funded enterprise? If you believe that, then I want to talk to you.


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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #15
20. LOL! Love that! And as for ALEC supposedly being "non-partisan" -- I have yet to run across any
mention of an ALEC member who's a Democrat. I suppose it's possible that they have a few members who are very conservative, pro-business Democrats, but I'm sure that a complete list of their members and former members would reveal that they're almost exclusively Republican.
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Hector Solon Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #20
23. ALEC Democrats - SEE page 21 of the Trojan Horse Report...
See page 21 LINK:
http://alecwatch.org/11223344.pdf

This is May 2001 of course:
For starters, ALEC appears to be only nominally “bipartisan.” It declines to make its membership list public, but in a current publication titled “Leaders in the States,” ALEC lists 209 of its members who are in “senior leadership positions” (including its own state chairs) in the 50 state legislatures. The publication does not denote the party affiliations of these state legislators, perhaps because the “bipartisan” breakdown is so lopsided: 177 are Republicans (84.7 percent), 29 are Democrats (13.9 percent) and three others from Nebraska are officially designated as Non-Partisan (1.4 percent). Only three of ALEC’s state chairs — those in Arkansas, Mississippi, and Texas — are Democrats.


They have TABLE, no names.

Not finding any other hits on Democrats more recent like 2010+ in a big pile of files. There's GOT to be ONE. Maybe they mean GOP and Libertarian as 'bipartisan'...lol.

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Hector Solon Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-11 10:56 PM
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16. Thanks for this PR - Amazing Statements in here - Analysis WIP
Will have to come back to this, right now bit ragged and see that this will require very special attention and a very well-formulated.... 'mauling' is the word that comes to mind.

Just a couple items, off the cuff (not researched, verified and 'doubled' like EVERYTHING my team has posted so far - mini-rant there):

1) "NYT and WSJ did extensive research" "no story" - both the NYT and WSJ covered the Dr Cronon story WITHOUT EVEN MENTIONING (need to verify this precisely, but tired right now) ALEC at all, which was the reason for his harassment period. Even MSNBC is nervous about 'mentioning' ALEC, both Maddow and Ed Schultz have literally done associated stories on WI and other states WITHOUT MENTIONING DIRECTLY, there are reasons, not saying any detail on that, but they have sponsors remember. AND what story is no story? There are at least four maybe five stories by now.

2) Same old 'bipartisan GOP and Dem members' crap - show us (or anyone for that matter) the membership list, AND the donor list.

3) "no meeting 'governors'" - OK staff and legislators, so they never had a 'meeting' right.

4) Maddow on voting - clean story from Campus Progress with evidence & docs, very clear AND she carefully did just a screen shot of ALEC. THINK ABOUT THIS - ALEC is PO'd for a what 3-4 second SCREEN SHOT that said "ALEC". This shows dumb PR, not likely, or they really are nervous (yeah we are talking about you Ms Reagan )

5) "The complexity and diversity of ALEC’s public and private sector members logically suggest that there are differing opinions on almost every policy position" - models on 'voted on' according to accounts ALEC's and others, and made "the model". This press release is written to steer away from what must be the majority of ALEC daily activity which is the 45% private sector membership. NOBODY knows what 'services' they are offering in the back like consulting. They behave like a commercial market research company, and there is more revenue in the 'consulting' and 'project side' of that type of business model

6) "Rich States, Poor States is used by state legislators throughout the country to find sound, conservative, successful budgeting practices." - Have a whole piece coming out on that piece of work and the flunkies that wrote and 'brief' it, have details on that one.

7) ALEC reports in general - they are non-peer reviewed, written by youngsters and small teams, bunk, there are examples of bad data in these reports out there already.

8) "Quite a few reporters from state and local media have called or emailed with an unfortunate biased agenda" - Not even going there.

We should systematically FIOA ALL emails from our State Houses to and from ALEC, on
MORE tomorrow, need a scotch right now and some sleep.






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999998th word Donating Member (555 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 01:59 AM
Response to Reply #16
18. FOIA *FOIA *FOIA +all of the other shill groups Mackinac-Club 4 growth Citizens United You know...
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Hector Solon Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #16
19. Starting Line-by-Line Analysis of Press Release on this thread...
Starting line-by-line analysis of Press Release now, if you have suggestions QUOTE the PR line and add comments and links HERE.

Let's work this thing in detail. Must be done. No mercy.
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 01:20 AM
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17. And another kick for this important information...
I do think that it sounds like they may be getting worried about the eyes looking at them.... I hope so, we are not going away.


:kick:
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:39 AM
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21. "ALEC has been working with the New York Times and Wall Street Journal over the past couple of weeks
to satisfy their inquiries. Both nationally renowned, leading papers have decided after extensive research, interviews and fact checking that there is no story. ALEC appreciates their fact-finding missions and will continue to enjoy good relationship with both newspapers."

Well, it's nice to know that a corporate advocacy group that drafts pro-corporate legislation was able to reassure a pro-business paper like the Wall Street Journal.

As for the Times... DUers are well aware that the Times has been moving farther and farther to the right, which is probably one factor in two of its most liberal columnists, Frank Rich and Bob Herbert, leaving.

But they've still published some accurate stories on ALEC, and the one article that seemed dismissive of ALEC's significance came from a Times reporter whose own biases and accuracy could be questioned.

Let's look at what the Times has said about ALEC. For instance...

As noted in reply 16 in my compilation topic on the American Legislative Exchange Council

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x591230#592643

the Times had a story in January, which Keith Olbermann quoted on Countdown, about ALEC "quietly spreading" anti-union proposals (to keep unions from using dues for political purposes) from state to state.

Btw, please DON'T click on the link for the Times articles below -- remember their paywall, which now limits you to viewing relatively few stories per month.

Reply 46 there

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x591230#595472

mentions what an ALEC task force director said about the spread of legislation that attempts to authorize states to seize federal lands, including parks and federally protected wilderness, by eminent domain. The ALEC task force in question is the one on "energy, environment and agriculture," and it is of course the energy companies who are most interested in exploiting those federal lands. (In Ohio, long-time ALEC member Gov. Kasich wants to open up the state parks to fracking -- and think how much more state park land there will be if they can seize federal lands!)

Reply 106 there

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x591230#638705

quotes one of ALEC's own press releases about the NY Times covering ALEC's legislation in 38 states to block the implementation of federal health care reform.

Reply 126, about a blog about ALEC, quotes and links to the NY Times story Keith Olbermann quoted:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x591230#706575

The Times article included this quote (which is in that reply):

A group composed of Republican state lawmakers and corporate executives, the American Legislative Exchange Council, is quietly spreading these proposals from state to state, sending e-mails about the latest efforts as well as suggested legislative language.

Michael Hough, director of the council’s commerce task force, said the aim of these measures was not political, but to reduce labor’s swollen power. “Government budgets have grown and grown because of the cost of employees’ pensions and salaries,” he said. “Now we have to deal with that.”


Sounds as if the Times had a clear view of what ALEC was doing, as well as its identity as a group of Republican state lawmakers and corporate executives.

The Times also ran an editorial on "The Shabby Crusade in Wisconsin" -- see my thread about that here

http://election.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x742684

which condemned the WI GOP's demand for Professor Cronon's emails, referred accurately to WI law as "union-busting" -- and described ALEC accurately as well: "a conservative group backed by business interests that circulates draft legislation in every state capital, much of it similar to the Wisconsin law, and all of it unmatched by the left."

Now, as I noted in a reply in that topic, reply 7

http://election.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x742684#743441

the Times also ran an article by the publisher's son, A.G. Sulzberger, that seemed more dismissive of Professor Cronon.

But Cronon's own problems as a journalist were outlined by Keith Olbermann in this column, which I also linked to there:

http://foknewschannel.com/new-york-times-punkd-by-anti-union-plant/

Sulzberger's front-page article featured a "union man from a union town" who was supportive of Gov. Walker's anti-union legislation. But the "union man from a union town" wasn't a union member at all. The Times buried the correction, after showcasing the erroneous article on the front page.

And as I pointed out in a commenta I posted on that column of Keith's on March 2, the Times had had the less-than-competent Sulzberger covering this union story even though they had a much better, more experienced reporter on labor issues in Madison, and they were having him cover stories like the pizzas being delivered to protesters. Here's the link to that story at The Awl about this "media malpractice":

http://www.theawl.com/2011/03/from-the-capitol-dome-media-malpractice-in-madison

So, as far as I can tell, the one reporter at the Times who's been dismissive of ALEC's significance and of Professor Cronon's blog about ALEC is a very sloppy reporter who quoted someone who wasn't in a union and presented him as "a union man in a union town" in an attempt to make it seem as though union members supported Walker. NOT the most credible reporter around.
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Hector Solon Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 10:35 AM
Response to Original message
22. Need refs to respond to Pension/Budget/Transparancy Paragraph
Sorry, just working down through and skipped this para (needs too much attention and trying to get all the way through0:

How does pension reform and collective bargaining fit in? ALEC has been educating its members for years on sound budget practices; this includes pension reform and transparency in collective bargaining. Unsustainable cost drivers threaten the financial solvency of the states. ALEC encourages states to explore every option possible to balance budgets, including pension reform and utilizing new approaches for pension funding, such as defined benefit plans.


(INSERT Analysis or Suggests HERE)

Have analysis for the content UP TO THIS paragraph and a couple below. Getting there, but help on refs and a couple summary bullets to counter this SPECIFIC Paragraph would help. Will post soon hopefully.

THANKS! on the MSM refs...
WSJ and NYT LINKS and content AWESOME below, can we use that? Use anything we post, or have posted on ALEC that you care to. It's a free County... well, sort of.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:16 AM
Response to Reply #22
24. Their statement that "ALEC encourages states to explore every option possible to balance budgets" is
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 11:17 AM by highplainsdem
a flat-out lie. They're always trying to cut taxes in ways that increase deficits. For instance, in Arkansas, they tried but failed to get rid of the state's capital gains tax, as I explained in reply 118 in my compilation topic:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x591230#667593

And, as I also explained there, when the Arkansas Department of Finance & Administration opposed the ALEC bill and said it would cost the state millions of dollars, ALEC sent out an "Issue Alert" to "ALEC Arkansas Public Sector Members" -- the state legislators who are members of ALEC -- telling them to ignore the estimated revenue losses as "severely misguided." (Which IMO is another very clear example of ALEC lobbying and not just being an "educational" organization.)

Quoting from that issue alert, which an ALEC member posted on his Facebook page:

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150105062378004

ISSUE ALERT

To: ALEC Arkansas Public Sector Members
From: ALEC’s Tax and Fiscal Policy Task Force
Re: Capital Gains Reduction Act—HB 1002
Date: February 23, 2011

It has come to our attention that the Arkansas Senate will soon consider HB 1002, The Arkansas Capital Gains Reduction Act of 2011. The American Legislative Exchange Council’s Tax and Fiscal Policy Task Force has endorsed model legislation to repeal state capital gains taxes. HB 1002 follows ALEC model legislation by eliminating anti-growth state capital gains taxes on businesses and properties throughout the state of Arkansas.

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Static revenue scoring is an inaccurate method to determine HB 1002’s true impact on Arkansas’ economy. We believe the static revenue loss estimates of $44.5 million in FY 2013 and $68.5 million in future years are severely misguided. By overestimating the total amount of projected revenue loss, this static scoring unfairly distorts HB 1002’s impact on the state’s finances. Based on historical case studies in the states and at the federal level, many economists strongly believe that the increased economic activity spurred by lower capital gains taxes generates enough tax revenue to pay for at least a portion of the estimated static revenue loss.

Today, Arkansas has a tremendous opportunity to become more competitive for new investments and jobs. The Arkansas Capital Gains Reduction Act of 2011 would create much-needed economic development by giving the state ability to compete with low tax states like Tennessee and Texas, which do not tax capital gains. House Bill 1002 is an important piece of legislation, based on ALEC model legislation, which would enhance Arkansas’ economic competitiveness.




As for the ALEC legislation limiting collective bargaining, this reply in the compilation topic, reply 129, has information on an Alaska state rep introducing such legislation soon after an ALEC representative was in the state capitol recruiting new members and handing out ALEC literature with wording similar to the bill that was introduced:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x591230#723697


And yes, Hector, feel free to link to these topics (and quote snippets). I've been linking to your DKos diaries, as well as some other diaries there about ALEC. It's important to have as much information as possible.
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:18 PM
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25. Campus Progress: ALEC's "Indignant Retort Dodges Questions About Their Policies"
http://campusprogress.org/articles/the_american_legislative_exchange_councils_indignant_retort_dodges_question/

The American Legislative Exchange Council’s Indignant Retort Dodges Questions About Their Policies
Posted by Tobin Van Ostern
March 31st, 2011


After several weeks of silence, ALEC has decided to respond to a range of accusations it is facing, including the Campus Progress report on their efforts to limit the ability of young people to vote. Unfortunately, in its response, entitled “Much ado about nothing” (or as we prefer “Move along now, nothing to see here”), ALEC continues its pattern of concealment and misinformation. ALEC spokesperson Raegan Weber states that the group’s “policies and initiatives are public,” but the reality is that some of its policies, such as its Voter ID model legislation, remain locked behind a password protected section of the ALEC website. ALEC would not provide a copy upon request by Campus Progress. (We eventually obtained a copy from another source.)

ALEC’s defense mischaracterizes its own work. Referring to the Campus Progress report, ALEC claims, “The model legislation that was posted with this story does not specifically address what states should use for ID.” But the very first section of the ALEC model legislation, entitled “Definitions,” states exactly what the requirements should be for an acceptable ID. Upon examining the requirements listed, lawyers consulted by Campus Progress confirmed that student IDs would be prohibited because the institutions that issue student IDs are excluded from the list of accepted issuers.

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This Campus Progress opinion piece concludes that "ALEC is clearly attempting to shift the focus from its own nefarious record."

Exactly.
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Hector Solon Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 10:29 PM
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26. Campus Progress - Nice
'Nefarious' is pretty generous to these people.

Solid content. Will add this to our piece which a line-by-line 'response' rather analysis of sorts.

They are rattled, hit 'em again. Debating on having any mercy or not (Ms W was Pfizer animal testing for example)... but nah, what mercy to they have on the little people they are affecting with this crap?

Will post the Center for American Progress on the main thread in a bit.
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Hector Solon Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 05:44 PM
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27. POST Analysis of ALEC Press Release "Setting the record Straight – Much ado about nothing” Mar 30
Just put up on Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/01/962412/-American-Legislative-Exchange-Council-%28ALEC%29-Releases-FULL-Donor-and-Membership-Lists

Check it out and FACT CHECK anything that we might have missed, or worded wrong. Had several sets of eyes on it, but still typos from changes/adds last night late.

Someone with better DU coding skills might post new thread or post here to this one which is better, I think. Not sure that my message box is 'reactivated' or not.

A COUPLE CLIPS:

This ANALYSIS is on the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) reaction to public scrutiny and exposure and building pressures about public awareness of their true nature. ALEC which was been described as the “most powerful lobbyist no one has ever heard of” that is “ghostwriting the law” for American corporations and associations, has issued another press release responding to a number of blogs, articles and reports on ALEC, it’s roots and funders, and current events in Wisconsin and elsewhere. All Americans should be concerned about ALEC subversion of basics democratic principles through activities producing content for bills and draft legislation, and influencing hundreds of elected officials in multiple states across the Country.

Our ‘moneyed corporations’ are writing our Nation’s laws. The advent of ALEC appears to be one of the most serious challenges to citizen driven democracy in US history, while only part of a national strategy or movement, ALEC is providing the content and materials for the execution of shaping America into a form other than democracy, and even traditional capitalism, into something new.

ALEC is the execution arm of a conservative ‘industry’ or the conservative political power-for-profit environment (some call this the “vast ring wing conspiracy”) created and funded by mega-wealthy ideologues, right wing organizations, and finds it roots in the Council for National Policy and the Heritage Foundation, with which it is associated. Leaders in the GOP and conservative moment have been working on a stated national strategy to take their ‘revolution’ to the States.

While awareness of ALEC is starting to grow and action plans are starting to emerge, we will continue down our original path tracking ALEC through recent events.

This is a Line-by-Line examination of the ALEC’s most recent press release with related information and links for the informed reader.


Thanks for the input and assistance, DU is rocking this issue, Kos is still behind, but getting there. Locals hot here in Michigan, our (PSYOPS) efforts are working on the ground that is certain. Not sure it will change things though, but keep plugging.

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