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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 09:58 PM Original message |
Starting my new job managing union workers... |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Union members are not lazy in my experience. They are well motivated and work hard. That aside the |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. All I can say is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. How do I navigate this world where I have one foot on each side? |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. No, I don't have that power. And I've protested on behalf on union workers on 5 occasions now |
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Davis_X_Machina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. If you don't have the power to hire, fire or promote... |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 04:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. I'm definitely aware. They announced today that they've decided to cut salaried people's benefits. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. If you're a nonunion manager you don't have "one foot on each side" |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. I was surprised to see how hard union workers work |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. I have no doubt they'd drop me in a heartbeat. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. Treat them with the respect, and they will return it. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
8. Manage |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. I studied engineering, not business. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 04:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Then why are you managing? Go do Laplace transforms (nt) |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. managing is about being analytical while at the same time using |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. Be fair. Be consistent mostly. |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. I'm pretty darn low. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
10. i almost feel sorry for you..... |
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RKP5637 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
11. I've managed and worked with all types of people in my career. Treat people as |
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CC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:11 PM Original message |
Union members come from the |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
23. I'll likely be keeping my thoughts to myself, I don't have a lot of truely progressive friends. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. Union members are by far the most efficient and productive workers over others. |
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PearliePoo2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
13. Managers are already telling you that Union people are lazy. |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
25. That's exactly what I'm afraid of. |
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peace13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. Please quit the job and let someone who believes in the union worker have it! n/t |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Today I asked my trainer why they don't promote the union guys ahead of me. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Mar-30-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
15. You are management, and you would fire them all if told to. |
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aka-chmeee (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
16. URW and USW member for 32 years |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 04:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. They gave me the contract but don't go over it at all. I plan on reading it pretty thoroughly. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 05:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. That is my issue, as well. Although I did go to h.s. with someone who became such a one at 23. |
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Shagbark Hickory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
24. Not all progressives are fans of unions. Similarly not all union workers are hard working. |
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greytdemocrat (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. Do your job |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
31. You have to prove yourself one way or the other |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Thank you for this input. Perhaps it really is only one way or the other. |
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mulsh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
32. It is very simple: be as straight and honest as you can with the employees.. |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
34. Thank you all for the responses, even the troll accusations. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
36. You will be their boss, you don't have to be their buddy. But treat |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
38. I'm going to tell you one of the secrets of every successful manager |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
39. Ive been a manager for a long time, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 06:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Thanks for the advice, and I appreciate the benefit of the doubt. |
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Snotcicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Speaking from a stewards point of view, demwing just gave you some sound advice. nt |
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demwing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 07:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I should say that the reason I gave you the benefit of the doubt |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
41. You got a management job right out of college? |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
42. Ask OmahaSteve. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
43. Union workers are lazy???? Umm, my dad was in the United Steel workers Union |
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pinkkillersheep (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. It sounds like I'll be 70% on the plant floor, 30%doing office-type work. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I know an engineer online |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 09:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I wish you the best. |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-31-11 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
47. The Golden Rule never fails you |
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