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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:34 AM
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Did I hear Rick Santorum say...
One third of all babies are aborted? Where would one go to even find that sort of statistic and isn't that figure kind of ridiculous?
I cant believe that.
tib
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:40 AM
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1. He was talking from personal experience??
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:50 AM
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6. He's a nut
I found a non-religious site with statistics.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

His 30%was wrong. It still sounds high at
excerpt from guttmacher

~Twenty-two percent of all pregnancies (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion.<2>
~Each year, two percent of women aged 15-44 have an abortion.

How does 2% of 15-44 get reconciled with 22% of all pregnancies?
(and i dont care about abortion it is a personal decision, I care that the nutjob makes it sound like women do this for fun or convenience on an easy whim.)
tib
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:24 AM
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17. All women aged 15-44 are not pregnant 100% of the time.
That is how you reconcile 2% of them with 22% of all pregnancies.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:44 AM
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:44 AM
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2. Sick Rantorum (sic) is a pig.
And a liar. Apologies to pigs.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:47 AM
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3. Making up facts to pander to an idiotic base.
:puke:
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:49 AM
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4. Is he counting masterbation??
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:58 AM
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10. Mentally, I think he's gotten his CPA in this...
But, if you want to know how the Santorums handle infants that do not thrive in their own family, I'm afraid Mr. S and his wife blew it on that one. They actually spent an undue amount of time with their own infant who died. It was disturbing to read of them having each of their living children hold this infant, spending time that frankly was indulgent.

Santorum, like many Republicans having tasted the "power" of the US Senate, come out with bizarre and untrue "statistics" to reinforce their behaving as iconoclasts of a mentally disturbed movement trying to foster an ignorant and more disturbing society of "value voters".
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:50 AM
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5. Hmmm.. let's see... where would one go for that info?
Well, if it was up his ass, he'd find it.
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:51 AM
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8. lol exactly what I thought
tib
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:50 AM
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7. He needs a seperate straitjacket for his tongue. n/t
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 08:51 AM
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9. He pulled that number out of his ass
Like most repubs.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:24 AM
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16. Numerical colonal extraction, to use the technical term...
...which I pulled out of my ass.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:40 AM
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21. LOL
:rofl:
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:02 AM
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11. He read it in Ezekiel
or Revelation. Anyway, if you ask him he'll tell you it's biblical truth.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:04 AM
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12. It's like everything else he says.
He pulls it out of his ass.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:13 AM
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13. i don't know his exact quote, but roughly 1/3 of all pregnancies are terminated early
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 09:21 AM by unblock
not usually by deliberate abortion (as in a medical procedure), of course, but by "spontaneous abortion", i.e., miscarriage.

many happen so early (e.g., conception but failure to implant) that the woman may not have realize she was pregant and may not even realize that the unusual flow afterwards is the passing of the miscarried fetus and the uterine lining.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage

on edit: the miscarriage (aka spontaneous abortion) probability is 31% IF you ignore failure to implant. if you consider failure to implant, it's actually a whopping 75% chance of miscarriage.

http://www.pregnancycharts.org/miscarriage.php

again, i didn't hear the quote, but i suspect he's conflating (most likely deliberately, for cynical political purposes) the technical term "spontaneous abortion", which means miscarriage, with the medical procedures for deliberate abortion.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:14 AM
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14. 97.3% of all statistics are pure fabrications.
Edited on Thu Mar-31-11 09:17 AM by Lasher
In 2004 there were 239 legal abortions per 1,000 live births.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5609a1.htm#tab9 (Table 2)

This is a ratio, not a percentage. To obtain the percent of pregnancies that were aborted, we add 239 + 1,000 = 1,239 and then calculate what percent 239 is of 1,239. The answer is 19.3%.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:22 AM
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15. Actually, science says that only about 1/3 of all fertilized human ova become a baby. Most are
'miscarried' by not attaching to the wall of the uterus.
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ehrnst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:25 AM
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18. Twenty-two percent of all pregnancies (excluding miscarriages) end in abortion.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html

Santorum's crowd will never try to verify anything that supports their bigotry.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:30 AM
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19. Since miscarriages account for over 1/3 of end result of pregnancies, than 22%
of the remaining would be 14.5%. The correct statement would be that abortions occur in 14.5% of all pregnancies.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 09:36 AM
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 10:07 AM
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23. Same as all of his facts - he sucks them out of his ass.
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 11:57 AM
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24. Some states have reporting requirements for abortions
Doctors simply report how many they performed, and some demographic data. The state also keeps records of how many births there are. After that it's simple to compare one number to another. I don't know if his number is accurate, but that's how I would derive it.
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