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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:11 PM Original message |
Radioactive Iodine-131 in rainwater sample near San Francisco 18,100% above federal drinking water s |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Some DUers won't like this thread. |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Why? I'm scared...I want to be reassured |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. They don't think the situation is dangerous. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. Looking @ NUC Berkeley website I can't find this. Could be false reporting |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. This level is much lower than our rain water measurements by a factor of approximately 300 |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Looking @ dates, all I can figure. I've been wrong before but can't find any other data |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I found this vis Bay Citizen. Off to check the UCB link (note 0.111 becquerels/Liter) |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. I hope it is a mismeasurement but |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Indeed. Here is NUC Berkeley sampling page, links to several sampling things. |
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abqmufc (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
105. i don't like the fact you don't have recent (continual) data... |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 03:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Me too... |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 01:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
109. Yeah, I thought it was odd that the state of Mass. was releasing rainwater results |
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abqmufc (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
100. Not sure if it differs, but tap water versus rainwater. |
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freshwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
68. Reassurance won't work with me. But I'll have to take it as it comes. No escape, anyway. |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
86. Yep--I have been called "nutty" for asking questions about Seattle and our 2 weeks of solid rain-- |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #86 |
96. Actually that blast of wet weather that I had to ride my bike through this morning |
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cppuddy (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
107. 1 |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. holy shit. |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. I would now,for the first time,advise all in that area to talk to a doctor about potassium iodide |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. 18 *THOUSAND* percent above normal/safe. Right in my area. |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
30. that was a comma...I thought that looked odd too |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Here is link with links to what they checked and results. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
56. THis is what ticks me off |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. We think alike |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. Oh dear. |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. The same way you filter out the other stuff. |
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BeFree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Great |
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hobbit709 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. ZERO! |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. If things don't get under control, that Iodine-131 will not be the only |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. And therein lies the problem. Any I131 that reaches us here will be |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #50 |
97. The media keeps indicating that those won't be an issue because they are so heavy... |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. I keep hearing reports of testing this and that but what's lacking is |
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shockra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
71. Zeolites |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 09:30 AM Response to Reply #71 |
87. Thanks for that shockra, had no idea but it's definitely good to know. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. And so it begins |
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gimama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. I don't like this thread |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. My problem is I don't understand half of what is being discussed |
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gimama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 05:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
67. ha! I'm right there with ya.. |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:44 AM Response to Reply #15 |
84. Have you seen the videos from Arnie Gundersen? |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:51 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Plain and blunt! And scary as hell! |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
12. Have you another backup source? I'd like to read more from another place also |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I don't know anything about the website |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. NYTimes link goes to a bay area search, only Berkeley references are guns and repubs. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Since the article is 3/31, it is referencing UCN Berkeley tests that show minimal, not that much |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I appreciate you investigating |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Thank you for posting this also. I don't see how they arrived at those figures. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
14. NUC Berkeley website doesn't show this as of last post. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
16. I am far more worried about the plant at Mt Diablo than an isotope w/ a half life of 8 days |
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nc4bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. How long has this thing been leaking now? |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. I can understand that |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. At 13,100% it takes 120 days for the water sampled to become safe. |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 05:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
64. Do you mean Diablo Canyon? That's not near Mt. Diablo. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
22. Obviously it's time to revise the federal drinking water standard. |
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Karmadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. +1. No better way to prevent panic. As soon as people learn preemptive chemotherapy |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. LOL, so true. But what's the benchmark? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
57. Yes, maybe the people will thank the... |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:32 AM Response to Reply #22 |
98. Yikes... They probably would do this.... |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
28. If you want a water filter system that filters radiation particles and is used by the Red Cross |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Yeah, I've got that in my cart. It looks outstanding... |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 03:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Unless they get the Japan Nuclear reactors under control, |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
48. Thanks just purchased one. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 03:17 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. You're welcome. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 03:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
58. I have this one |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 04:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Nice. I bought the other one just because the product information said in filtered radiation |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #28 |
94. The problem is that we absorb more toxins through our skin while showering |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
38. Ok, I tried my best to track this down |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. That is what I'm finding also. A high report on 3/23 and low before/since. |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. I am wondering about this in conjunction with the air monitors |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
41. some primary links for this story (including sampling methodology from UC Berkeley) |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Looks like the same info I'm finding, a peak on 3/23 from NUC Berkeley, and a NYT article |
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stockholmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:10 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. roger that,this is just so unpredictable due to bio-accumulation,size of injurious dose & randomness |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:22 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Ok, if I am reading this correctly, we had a one-day spike |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:58 PM Response to Reply #47 |
74. you need toisten to this dude ...he knows of what he speaks.... |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 02:50 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Thanks! |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
44. Original Article Here (From 3/31/11): |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
49. My virus protection software is blocking this site |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 02:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Looks like they have a bunch of ads. Go to the NUC Berkeley website for direct info |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 03:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Oh great! |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
59. I find it interesting the UC Berekely is on top of this, but the EPA isn't. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
60. This is not "reassurance spin", but I've been doing a lot of reading about this past couple days |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
61. The levels are still very very low. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 05:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. When this event first occurred... |
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Yo_Mama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
65. striking that they got the numbers so wrong |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:55 AM Response to Reply #65 |
103. I'd start mothballing our nukes and switch to wind. |
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rdking647 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
66. according to UC berkley |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
70. Bad news, good news, bad news. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 09:48 AM Response to Reply #70 |
88. Uranium and plutonium are physically heavy elements. Thus, |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:53 AM Response to Reply #88 |
102. So's iodine!! So is strontium! You're measuring this in atomic units. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. You may be right - I am not a physicist and flunked chemistry, lol. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
72. We are all Fukushima -- |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
73. Deleted message |
grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-03-11 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
75. Kick |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
76. Who needs water, anyway? |
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WheelWalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
77. This could ruin someone's weekend. nt |
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Paradoxical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
78. ...Holy shit... |
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indimuse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
80. KNR! n/t |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
81. I can't find any other verification of this claim. |
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theglammistress (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:42 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Found this... |
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NewJeffCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 08:14 AM Response to Original message |
82. Send Ann Coulter over to sample the water |
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jimlup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
89. Yeah, it is raining here today (midwest) and it is the maximum we'll probably get |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
90. Why not just 181-times normal? That's a 18,000% increase, not 18,100%. Sorry. nt |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
91. ! |
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thereismore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
92. Looking at the Berkeley site, there was one spike on March 23, otherwise it wasn't as bad. nt |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
93. This really worries me. |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
95. Holy shit! n/t |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
99. Unbelieveable. And the government will just let this happen. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
101. I-131 HALF LIFE IS ONLY 8.02 DAYS ..nothing to worry about.. or something.. n/t |
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abqmufc (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
106. Why are AQ models not being used to determine key locations to sample air and water in the USA? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Yeah. Odd, isn't it? |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-04-11 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
108. Nothing to worry about! SQUACK! Nothing to worry about! SQUACK! |
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