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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:33 PM
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Largest federal workers union sues Obama administration for repayment of wages in event of shutdown!


Largest federal worker union sues for pay lost in event of shutdown
By Kevin Bogardus
April 8, 2011

The nation's largest federal employee union sued the Obama administration Friday, seeking the repayment of wages lost during a government shutdown.

The American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) says in its lawsuit that the administration has violated the Constitution's appropriations clause and the 13th Amendment by requiring employees to work without pay during a federal closure.

AFGE has 600,000 members who are federal and D.C. government workers.

The 13th Amendment became law in 1865, ending the practice of slavery and indentured servitude in the United States.

http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/budget/154941-largest-federal-worker-union-sues-for-shutdown-pay


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PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
April 8, 2011
Contact: Tim Kauffman/kaufft@afge.org
202-639-6405/202-374-6491

REQUIRING EMPLOYEES TO WORK DURING SHUTDOWN VIOLATES LAW, LAWSUIT CHARGES
Federal agencies can’t force employees to work without promise of payment, union says


WASHINGTON - Ordering federal employees to work during a government shutdown violates the U.S. Constitution, according to a lawsuit filed today by the nation's largest federal employee union.

The American Federation of Government Employees filed the lawsuit in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. Office of Management and Budget Director Jacob Lew and Office of Personnel Management Director John Berry are named as defendants.

The lawsuit contends that the Obama administration is violating the U.S. Constitution's Appropriations Clause and Thirteenth Amendment by requiring federal civilian employees to work without pay during a period of lapsed federal appropriations.
"Hundreds of thousands of federal employees will be required to work during a shutdown, and there's no guarantee that Congress will keep the administration's promise to pay those employees once the shutdown is over," AFGE National President John Gage said.

Section 1341 of Title 31 of the U.S. Code prohibits federal and D.C. government workers from spending or obligating funds that have not already been appropriated by Congress.

The administration claims that it can require certain employees to work during a shutdown under Section 1342 of Title 31, which includes a clause covering "emergencies involving the safety of human life or the protection of property."

However, AFGE's lawsuit contends that this section of U.S. Code is not a valid exception to the prohibition on incurring debts during a shutdown because it is not an appropriations law and does not empower federal agencies to force Congress to pay for debts incurred during a shutdown.

"The Constitution requires an appropriation by Congress before federal dollars can be spent, no exceptions," Gage said. "Without an appropriation, the agencies simply can't spend money or incur debts by forcing employees to work."

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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:35 PM
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1. Shouldn't they be suing Boner and the Tea Baggers?
There the ass hats who are holding out.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:39 PM
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2. Just what I was thinking too as I read the OP. n/t
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:41 PM
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6. What expertise do you have in labor law?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:17 PM
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21. Absolutely none. It just seems the Obama administration gets blamed for a lot of stuff. n/t
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 09:17 PM by RKP5637
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:39 PM
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3. Ultimately they have to sue the government, just like the government has to defend itself when sued.
Thats just how it works, it has nothing to do with whether the people doing the sueing or the people working for the federal government are on the same or opposite sides of the issue politically.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:42 PM
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7. You are correct. But the media and others will use this to score BOGUS points
Along the lines of "This proves this is the Democrat's shutdown."
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:40 PM
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4. Are you an attorney more familiar with labor law than the union lawyers?

If you're a attorney specializing in labor law perhaps you can explain why the union lawyers are just plain wrong.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:42 PM
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10. It was a comment, not a legal opinion
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:47 PM
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13. Seriously CHILL OUT PEOPLE!
I know how much it would please to see Obama brought down but this issue was created by the Republicans, therefore they need to be held accountable for their actions.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:50 PM
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16. Why not just support the 600,000 union workers and their right to not work without pay?

It seems pretty clearcut and simple.

You're either for them or against them.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:53 PM
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17. George Bush is that you?
Its not Obama thats forcing the shut down, so lets place blame where it belongs. Obama is finally doing what every wants him to do and stand pat against the Republicans and people can't even be happy about that? I understand the Unions pretty much have to sue the government which means the white house, but GOD PEOPLE quit acting so happy about it.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:00 PM
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19. Trust me, I am chilled. . .
and I agree with your sentiment
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:49 PM
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15. I wasn't responding to your post. Check the string.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:01 PM
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20. Yes I know. I was responding to your post
As I thought you were being a little aggressive towards the other poster.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:40 PM
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5. Technically no
If the shutdown happens, it isn't Congress that's ordering specific federal workers to saty on the job...the orders come from the Administration.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:42 PM
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8. And that's probably why the union attorneys had no other recourse.
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:43 PM
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11. Took the words..
out of my mouth.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:47 PM
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14. So tell us what the union labor attorneys don't understand about labor law.

And how they are really screwing up big time.

I'm listening.
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:42 PM
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9. Good for the Union!
Looking out for their members. At least someone has some backbone.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:45 PM
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12. Perhaps the 600,000 federal workers will refuse to work if they won't get payed.
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 03:46 PM by Better Believe It
Who on DU would go to work for any employer without being guaranteed a paycheck for work performed?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:58 PM
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18. Obama should say he will not sign any bill that doesn't pay all of the gov't workers wages due.

The ball is now in the Republican court.

End of story.

Now what's so hard about that?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:22 PM
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22. Now that makes sense!!! n/t
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 09:26 PM
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23. Good.
Hell, my cousin works for the fed and she said they were required to come in Mon. for four hours to pick up their furlough email. ?? They aren't allowed to do it from home, they have to come in. For her that requires getting a pre-schooler to her school on the train before getting to the office. It's ridiculous. I'd call in sick.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 11:08 PM
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24. Starting with Reagen, a lot of stuff makes absolutely no sense whatsoever IMO. n/t
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