killing fetus Wrong - killing people in other countries ok and wasting BILLIONS doing it ok

[2Design]

they are idiots sorry it is a rant - how are they getting so much air time for idiot messages

[Drale]

1. God doesn't care about foreigners

They are just squatting on the land God wants us to pump for oil. :sarcasm:

[missheidi]

12. Sounds like something Pat Robertson would say :/

[BrklynLiberal]

2. The hypocrisy knows no bounds.

They murder doctors to stop abortions..but won't offer anything like prenatal care, or child health care, or education for those children or their mothers....
They do not give a shit after the baby is out of the womb..just shows that it is not a matter of saving a life, it is a matter of control of women.

[patrice]

14. So full of contradictions: If one has the moral responsibility to murder the doctor, why doesn't

one also have the moral responsibility to provide for prenatal care, or child health care, or education for those children or their mothers???? It would seem that murder would be a bigger moral risk than those other things, but (by their logic) just like in war, apparently we are to make that leap without being as certain as possible that no other solution was possible.

This is why I think a lot of their talk is fueled out of pure emotional/biological buzz and what bigger buzz is there than murder/war?

[KamaAina]

3. You forgot the most important thing

the people we're kiliing are brown. They obviously don't count. :sarcasm:

[patrice]

15. I am not given to absolutes, but I absolutely cannot imagine us doing what we've done, since

WWII, to White "Christians".

[Scuba]

4. Yeah, but the MIC doesn't get rich killing fetuses. n/t

[liberal N proud]

5. Fetus' have more rights than humans

according to the GOP

[Rhiannon12866]

6. Yup, they want to overturn Roe v Wade

And also eliminate funding for caring for premature babies. You're exactly right. Once you're born, you're on your own. :crazy: :grr:

[HockeyMom]

7. Blastocysts of rape victims

even of minior children, have more rights? Oh, these hours old "tiny humans" will SUFFER AND DIE. If it doesn't have a BRAIN or nerves, it cannot feel anyting. Give me a break. What about the suffering of an 11 year old rape victim? A blastocyst has no brain and no feelings. An 11 year old CHILD does.

[csziggy]

8. Denying prenatal health care to the fetuses is also OK apparently n/t

[Enthusiast]

9. You got it.

"killing fetus Wrong - killing people in other countries ok and wasting BILLIONS doing it ok"

[SaveAmerica]

10. someone on FB said that "Obama's budget is taking money from the military to keep abortions"

One of the people who responded said it is so sad that killing innocent people is of such importance and I thought he was talking about the wars but no, he is furious about Obama cutting funding to the troops. You can't make up such stupidity.

[patrice]

11. I think the official rationale is that the fetuses are not only completely innocent, but also comple

completely powerless, ergo, they deserve our absolutely complete commitment to their protection, while for persons in other countries' innocence is questionable (i.e. they may have somehow asked for the wars in which they die ((by refusing U.S. requirements)), so they are not innocent and even if they didn't ask for it and are, hence, "innocent", they, or those who control them, are not powerless to get out of harms way, so they or those who control them have the primary responsibility to protect them, not us. Ergo, these foreigners, not being innocent and/or not being powerless, they do not deserve our concern as we do what "higher/divine" powers "require" of us, what we "must", because we are "exceptional".

I THINK that's the official right-wing defense of war as compared to "pro-life" activism, that is. There are two conditions "innocence" and "powerlessness". Fetuses fulfill both, but in regard to war, failure on either criteria does not make the other ir-relevant.

Two problems with this:

1. Defining innocence in any absolute terms, but especially based upon support, or not, of American objectives, is pure BLASPHEMY. Historically, there have been situations, such as fighting the Nazis, in which this was a reasonable assumption, ... not so much since then.

2. Not everyone has the knowledge, means, and opportunity to exercise enough power to get out of harm's way, so many who die ARE powerless and if they're innocent that apparently doesn't matter, because they (or someone who had the power to do it for them) were SUPPOSED to get out of harm's way and didn't. Notice here how, unlike pregnancy, the determinative responsibility of others (foreigners) who have power to save, or not to save, these innocents (foreigners) IS part of the moral equation, whereas, in pregnancy that same power (the mother) is considered ir-relevant.

Additionally, others, though they do have the knowledge, means, and opportunity, i.e. power, to avoid the war are not innocent, because they may have decided that, though they had the power to avoid danger, avoiding the danger is Wrong and confronting it is Right in much the same way that "we" pretend each one of us Americans has freely done in making the decision to participate in or support war - and - to assume, as we often have, that these foreigners used their power to make that decision, but have made it Wrongly, is, once again, a claim to ultimate and absolute knowledge/understanding, i.e. Blasphemy.

[patrice]

16. Of course, all of that begs the question as to how anything that has never had any degree of the

powers of self-determination/choice could be "innocent" of anything, but that IS the way it used to be taught in Catholic schools: Abortion is wrong because fetuses are absolutely innocent and powerless.

[WinkyDink]

13. Republicans don't care about foreign beings at any stage in their development.