Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Cop Nearly Doors Cyclist, Then Chases And Arrests Her

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU
 
Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:04 PM
Original message
Cop Nearly Doors Cyclist, Then Chases And Arrests Her
Edited on Sat Apr-09-11 07:05 PM by Liberal_in_LA
Cop Nearly Doors Cyclist, Then Chases And Arrests Her

Thede, a 28-year-old theater technician on the Upper West Side, tells us she was biking home on Sunday around 6 p.m. when the driver's side door of a double parked black car popped open suddenly on Amsterdam between 76th and 77th Streets. "I had to brake so abruptly that a delivery biker behind me ran into me," says Thede. "I had a verbal exchange with the driver in which I told him to watch what he was doing." Then she rode on, but soon realized that the guy had gotten back into his car and was zooming up behind her. She still had no idea this man was an officer of the law, and the situation devolved from there:

He was driving after me and I was scared. He kept slowing down alongside me, so I cut all the way over to the left lane. But he angrily skidded to a stop in front of me, pulling his car perpendicular to traffic in the left lane. Then I got off my bike and tried to walk my bike onto the sidewalk because I wasn't going to run out into traffic. That's when he grabbed the back of my bike and started pulling it.

He didn't say he was a cop and I thought, 'This guy's crazy, he's attacking me!' I screamed for help and he started restraining my arms and holding me so I couldn't move. People on the street stopped and started asking him what he was doing. I did not hear him say he was a police officer or see any indication he was a police officer, so I was terrified. Then an NYPD squad car arrived and my initial thought was that they were going to save me from this guy; I figured the bystanders had called 911.

But instead of handcuffing her assailant, they slapped the cuffs on Thede, and that's when she realized that it was a policeman who had chased her. "I asked one of the police officers who was telling me to calm down if this guy and the passenger in his car were really cops," Thede recalls. "And she confirmed that they were from the Central Park precinct. I overheard a bystander say, 'I think she ran a red light.' But that's not true. He was hotheaded and couldn't take someone telling him what he did was wrong so he needed to come after me and teach me a lesson."

Thede was charged with reckless operation of a bicycle and disorderly conduct, and spent about an hour at the local precinct station house. During that time, the cop who arrested her, one "Sgt. Santiago" according to the summons, tried to justify the arrest.

http://gothamist.com/2011/04/06/cop_nearly_doors_cyclist_then_chase.php
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:06 PM
Response to Original message
1. what a frightening incident; cops like that really are "pigs"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:14 PM
Response to Original message
2. So far though, all we have is the bicyclist's side.
She may have been reckless, we don't know, yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Or the cop could be a full on oinker pig.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. Or this could just be another "Critical Smash" asshole
who claims doe eyed innocence after any altercation with a motorist.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:37 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Yeah, I'm conflicted. Douche-bag cop or asshole biker. Maybe both?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 06:59 AM
Response to Reply #12
37. I'm on the fence, too
Living by Prospect Park, there are a lot of asshole bikers. But there are also a lot of asshole cops. Maybe a convergence of events brought out a confluence of assholery....



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
2banon Donating Member (794 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #9
21. unmarked cop car double parked, opens door w/o looking
I have my share of gripes w/arrogant cyclists who think triffic signals and such do not apply to them. and I've seen far too many arrogant cops run roughshod wrt in array of incidents.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bigmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:19 PM
Response to Reply #2
6. You forgot the sarcasm tag!
:-)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #6
8. Right... because bicyclists are *so* safe and responsible...
...and *always* follow traffic laws :sarcasm:

There, I put one in.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Snoutport Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. OMG...I am one block from a major bike street....
they do such unsafe things!!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:47 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. While walking I've been slammed into by bicyclists multiple times
Because apparently stoplights aren't meant for them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. Or stop signs
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
17. That cyclist irritates me
The whole point is you don't *know* it's an empty intersection until you stop and look. That's why the sign tells you to do it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. I read a bunch of the comments
People defending it. Even if I'm at a slow roll in my car you gotta stop at stop signs.

I'm not anti-cyclists, but they need to follow the road rules.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. The budget shortfall in Costa Mesa could be wiped out by sufficiently ticketing bike assholes
Hell, the California budget deficit and accumulated debt could be wiped out by ticketing all the bike assholes on the PCH.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #15
43. Really? You should have had some serious injuries, then. What were they?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. 2 broken ribs and a chipped tooth in one case
Sprained wrist in another. Thanks for asking.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #2
24. Unfortunately, there is no video.
In cases like this many will automatically side with the cops and many will automatically side with the alleged victim. Perhaps there are other eyewitness that we will hear from in the coming days.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #2
40. lol
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:41 AM
Response to Reply #2
41. Please. Get real. She had the delivery guy behind her as a witness.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:15 PM
Response to Original message
3. The scales of Justice are malleable.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:16 PM
Response to Original message
4. She's screwed if he had a partner in the car.



The partner will say he did everything by the book and that she
was completely in the wrong and lying about everything. Totally
wrong but that's how it usually plays out.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:24 PM
Response to Original message
7. Don't play in traffic
A hammerhead gets their comeuppance. You would be hard pressed to find a cyclist in New York who shouldn't be charged with "reckless operation of a bicycle" daily.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 02:32 AM
Response to Reply #7
26. You'd be hard pressed to find a cop that isn't a petty little authoritarian anywhere. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #26
27. That may well be true,
but the urban cyclist is still a menace,
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 09:30 AM
Response to Reply #27
29. Thanks, I'll keep this in mind next time...
I nearly get run off the road for being a menace. Happens at least once a week in Oklahoma. I think we lost 8 or 9 cyclists (dead) last year because of wonderful, law-abiding drivers. A 14 year old cyclist was nearly killed because some law-abiding driver ran a stop sign.

So, the urban menace goes both ways.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. playing in traffic is dangerous
did your parents offer no guidance in these matters?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 06:26 AM
Response to Reply #32
33. eh, not worth arguing over.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:27 PM
Response to Original message
10. Central Park cops have it out for bicyclists.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:31 PM
Response to Original message
11. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 07:43 PM
Response to Original message
14. This story brought to mind an incident my cousin had aqbout 30 years ago
He couldn't have been more than 20 yrs old and he had bought what at the time was a very expensive bike. He was cruising down a road with traffic and he notices a police car passing him with it's lights on, it travels somewhat further down the road around a curve and when my cousin comes around the curve the cruiser has stopped and the police officer is standing out of the cruiser with the radar gun pointed at my cousin and he motions my cousin to pull over and stop.

My cousin does what he's told and the cop says:" I had to pull you over, you passed me in traffic and I was doing 35 in a 30 mile hr zone....that speed cannot be safe for you on a bike"

(We lived in town of about 15,000 people at the time)

My cousin was dumbfounded and asked if he was going to get a ticket.

"No, but I clocked you at 42 mph, consider this a warning"

We all had a good laugh and until this post I hadn't really ever seen any story that rivaled my cousin's.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:22 PM
Response to Original message
20. Normally my prejudices would make me assume
that the cop was being an asshole. But I hate bicyclists as much as cops. So I'm gonna sit this one out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 07:06 AM
Response to Reply #20
28. I'm with ya
But I hate cops more.

Why don't cyclists obey the road signs? They want the respect that cars get, but don't obey the signs that cars do.

And bike shorts on guys....YUCK! :-)

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #20
42. except one has supremely more power than the other. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #20
45. Except you didn't sit this one out.
lol
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:42 PM
Response to Original message
22. Some legal and practical problems related to evidence
Edited on Sat Apr-09-11 08:55 PM by Boojatta

Anthony Graber, a Maryland Air National Guard staff sergeant, faces up to 16 years in prison. His crime? He videotaped his March encounter with a state trooper who pulled him over for speeding on a motorcycle. Then Graber put the video — which could put the officer in a bad light — up on YouTube.

(...)

In the case of Graber — a young husband and father who had never been arrested — the police searched his residence and seized computers. Graber spent 26 hours in jail even before facing the wiretapping charges that could conceivably put him away for 16 years.

(...)Prosecutors across the U.S. claim that videotaping violates wiretap laws — a stretch, to put it mildly.

(...)

More recently, a New York Police Department officer was thrown off the force — and convicted of filing a false report — because of a video of his actions at a bicycle rally in Times Square. The officer can plainly be seen going up to a man on a bike and shoving him to the ground. The officer claimed the cyclist was trying to collide with him, and in the past, it might have been hard to disprove the police account. But this time there was an amateur video of the encounter — which quickly became an Internet sensation, viewed more than 3 million times on YouTube alone.

(...)

Even if these cases do not hold up in court, the police can do a lot of damage just by threatening to arrest and prosecute people. "We see a fair amount of intimidation — police saying, 'You can't do that. It's illegal,'" says Christopher Calabrese, a lawyer with the ACLU's Washington office. It discourages people from filming, he says, even when they have the right to film.

From article:
Dated Wednesday, August 04, 2010
by Adam Cohen
Should Videotaping the Police Really Be a Crime?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Terra Alta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 08:42 PM
Response to Original message
23. There's got to be more to this story.
I want to hear the cop's version before I make any judgments.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 09:28 PM
Response to Original message
25. Deleted message
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Heywood J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 12:46 PM
Response to Original message
30. It's the NYPD.
Edited on Sun Apr-10-11 12:49 PM by Heywood J
What, he didn't have a broomstick or fifty bullets handy when they reached the station house?

The NYPD will only get respect again when it cleans up its act. Until then, I won't trust a word they say.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-11 02:29 PM
Response to Original message
31. Do Central Park Cop Cars have video recording devices?
Edited on Sun Apr-10-11 02:35 PM by Tesha
If so, it's simple. Take the matter to court (disorderly
conduct charges certainly merit that) and subpoena the
cops' recording(s).

Subpoena the radio traffic as well and see if the officer
announced his intention to stop the cyclist.

There shouldn't be any doubt about what happened.

Tesha
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 06:42 AM
Response to Original message
34. Christ, what's with all the cyclist hate?
Maybe some cyclists are annoying but there are PLENTY of automobile drivers that are just as obnoxious. The only difference is that the automobile drivers are blasting down the road in what is essentially a deadly weapon. I'll take the annoying cyclist any day.

As for this story. . . Sorry, but you open your door into traffic at your own risk. You don't need the cop's side to see that he wasn't paying attention to what he was doing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #34
47. Automobile drivers pretty much universally don't whip through red lights when they think it's "safe"
Cyclists nearly universally do.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 06:42 AM
Response to Original message
35. Double post, snipped
Edited on Mon Apr-11-11 06:44 AM by themadstork
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
themadstork Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 06:43 AM
Response to Original message
36. Wow, triple post. Not sure what went wrong.
Edited on Mon Apr-11-11 06:46 AM by themadstork
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #36
38. You
had a point that you really, really, REALLY wanted to make! :)

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:40 AM
Response to Original message
39. I was almost "doored" as a kid; it is VERY frightening to think you might fall into moving traffic!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 11:43 AM
Response to Original message
44. i live in nyc and cops and drivers of cars/suv's are generally much more obnoxious than bikers
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-11 03:58 PM
Response to Original message
48. SOOOEEE!!! I smell pigs!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 05:03 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC