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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:53 AM Original message |
Obama: "we also made sure that at the end of the day, this was a debate about spending cuts" |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
1. arrrgh. "At the end of the day, we made sure the debate was on GOP terms." |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. no, the GOP wanted to make it about abortion, about NPR, about the EPA |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. The GOP wanted spending cuts. And they got them by opening negotiations with nutzoid social issues. |
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GOTV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Yes. Why didn't they give up their barganing chips right in the beginning, like Obama does? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Tom Tomorrow Tells the Story of the Budget Debate |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Bingo! |
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Shiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. It did include the military. |
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Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. That is after the fairly huge increase the beginning of the year |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
3. At the end of the day, the GOP got more than its opening bid |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. I'd love to sell Obama my old used car |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
4. " I want to thank Speaker Boehner..." Says it all. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. no doubt. |
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OHdem10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
5. When are we going to debate Which TYPE of Government do |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
10. you're wrong, graham. There are Defense cuts in the deal. |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Right - 3 Billion dollars. That's a whole 0.003% of Defense spending |
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ReturnoftheDjedi (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. It's 3 billion that didn't get cut from Social Programs. and the Repukes didn't want it. |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Wrong. It's 3 billion that gets put in the pockets |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. It's increasing revenue by taxing the ultra-rich, the corportions, and closing loopholes, VS |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. Because the chess players in the GOP knew they could use social issues to force big spending cuts |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. It's not a big chess move though. |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Something ominous? I agree-- the Democrats in Congress are basically in a losing position |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yes |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 01:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Dems made one big miscalculation |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. The Dems need to realize that Tea baggers represent a cabal of billionaires and |
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andym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Agree-- but there is even more here |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
13. AGREE! Indeed, this WAS about spending cuts...making sure we poor folk sacrificed. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
17. Interestingly, "...at the end of the day..." has been used by Palin a lot, and |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 08:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. Its a phrase used by everyone a LOT. What dumb shit. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Using such a phrase a LOT is what is annoying about that phrase, along with |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 02:14 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. You are overreaching with the pettiness. Its exposing you. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:18 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Exposing because I expect a president to be able to speak without |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Exposing you for pretending something bothers you so you can continue bitching to no end. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 12:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. No one cares, and yet, you continue to respond. Imagine that! |
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phleshdef (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 01:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. I find your fraudulent concerns to be annoying. That doesn't mean I care about your expectations. |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 04:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. All the hopey/changey hype was a case of all that glitters is not gold. You are |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
26. please explain how we can get tax raises through a GOP house. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Last December, all we had to do was to do nothing, now |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. taxes would have went up on everyone graham, you know that. now explain how you get a bill through |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Taxes did go up on everyone, because |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-11 07:48 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. sorry graham. you didn't understand how a risk pool works, and you don't understand the tax cut deal |
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