The Brookfield Follies--Ruminations of a paranoid mind

[Jackpine Radical]

OK, it's election night & you can see the vote coming in Ungodly close. You execute the Chaos plan: You scuttle the 14,000 votes from the city of Brookfield. Then 2 days later you "rediscover" those votes. Bedlam ensues, just as you counted on happening. Investigatins follow, all centering on what happened in Brookfield.

Ah, but Brookfield is a diversion. Examination of the situation will not change the vote. But you have all the attention in the state focused on one spot.

Meanwhile, whatever electoral chicanery took place, happened far from Brookfield and nobody is going to look there once they have satisfied themselves that the Brookfield count was more or less accurate.

WHAT other electoral chicanery? Beats the hell out of me, but when I see the magician waving a scarf in the air with one hand, I immediately want to know what he's doing with the other hand.

[ewagner]

1. Occum's razor

Yours, sir, is the simplest and most likely explanation. I've been driving myself batty (more than usual) trying to figure out what, exactly, the GAME was...the only thing I am reasonably certain about is that there was/is in fact a GAME going on here and I can't figure it out .....yet...

[shraby]

2. Exactly what I thought from the get-go. Brookfield is a shiny

object.

[ewagner]

3. The post from Kos this morning

has me wondering about "phantom voters"...but that would have to be a massive conspiracy to do that involving both the Republican and Democratic Poll Watchers.....read the post...you'll see what I mean.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/11/965994/-Waukesha-voting-irregularities-go-back-to-2004

By no means am I discounting the "bright, shiny object" theory.

[Scuba]

4. That's why we should demand a statewide hand recount. n/t

[HereSince1628]

5. I think the intent of the recount fund-raising is to go just that

I don't think it's going to be limited to the wards in Brookfield.

Black-box hacking has me paranoid. I admit it, I'm hoping we have the paper/scantron ballots for every vote that was cast.

[dragonlady]

10. Every vote WAS on paper, by Wisconsin law

But that doesn't mean they were all counted as they were written. There are ways to rig the scanners. After all, they are just computers and do what their programming tells them to do, and who programs the software for every election? A recount by humans might turn up some surprising differences from the reported counts.

[tomp]

6. that's some pretty cool statistics in your sig line. nt

[Botany]

7. If the Republicans were up to no good in the vote ....

.... in Wisconsin which I don't know if that is true or not but to me Waukesha County
looks to be "the firewall" to stop a democratic victory. I have seen that play before
in Ohio 2004 w/ Rove/Blackwell holding some very conservative s.w. Ohio counties
until after the N.E. Ohio vote came in ..... one of those Counties had precincts w/
90% + turn outs.

Besides this is not the first time Nickolaus has "found votes."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x872073

[tomp]

8. seems likely to me.

perhaps wiconsoners should be looking at other districts, like....NOW.

[mojowork_n]

9. Compare numbers everywhere

You might not find the fires burning, or see the smoke, or catch a glimpse of even one cloven-hoofed devil,
but there might be a whiff of sulfur -- a really bad smell -- if you find big discrepancies between voter
totals from the last few elections, in certain counties.

That was the deal in Ohio in 2004, and Florida, and the more recent Florida gubernatorial election?

Counties that were both relatively low-income and blue, where the pre-election polls had shown Democrats
with a strong lead -- actually turned out to vote red, and in record turnout numbers, at that.

Stuff like that, wasn't it?

With Kathy Nicko-Louse being an 'expert at vote total manipulation' we need to look at the absentee
ballots, at...

...everything, all the numbers.

I think you hit the nail on the head as far as the strategy and tactics and no moral scruples whatsoever
gamesmanship that could be at work here.

[L. Coyote]

11. Since when does anyone care, even when election fraud is proven noone reacts

The 2004 Ohio Presidential Election: Cuyahoga County Analysis
How Kerry Votes Were Switched To Bush Votes
http://www.jqjacobs.net/politics/ohio.html

Even when a statistical method demonstrates voting irregularities beyond any shadow of a doubt,
you can't even get Democratic government officials to take the issue seriously!

[Jackpine Radical]

12. Cuyahoga Co. 2004 is not Wisconsin 2011.

[Botany]

13. Both Cuyahoga and Waukesha are Native American words

Just saying :P

[Jackpine Radical]

15. Both words in the Algonkian language group?

[dragonlady]

14. Kick

:kick:

[The Magistrate]

16. It Is A 'Double Count', Sir

Numbers have been inflated throughout the county, by an amount equal to the inflated Brookfield totals 'discovered' by the criminal clerk. This takes a corrupt precinct organization in a county dominatd by one party to pull off, as it requires a good deal of falsification of paper records, but counties dominated by one party generally do have 'machines' which maintain corrupt precinct organizations for just this sort of chicanery.

[Jackpine Radical]

17. Can competent investigators uncover this?

It hurts my head to think about exactly how it might have been done, given certain anchor points and constraints such as the totals reported on Election Night.

[The Magistrate]

18. Ought To Be Able To, Sir, But the Thing Would Run deep

Polling sheets wold have been falsified to match. You would want to look for things like runs of names in alphabetical order, and other things that over-confident tricksters get sloppy about, when they have grown used to no one looking. It is clear this county is rotten as DuPage or Cook. Nearby is a thead showing that in 2006, the tallies showed about ifteen thousand more votes in various races than the figure given for ballots cast....

[Jackpine Radical]

19. And funny numbers in 2004 as well.

Yes, the digging is no doubt beginning.

As I commented in the past, it does not seem wise to piss off a bunch of experienced prosecutors whom you have caused to suddenly find time on their hands.

[postulater]

20. Could have something to do with Milwaukee Cty

There was a lower turnout for Kloppenburg than expected.

And it is way easier to keep people from voting than to hide ballots that were cast.