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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:17 PM Original message |
Call me unsensible, a dreamer, or even childish all you want, but |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. If only we had a President... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Actually, I didn't even say they had to succeed in doing what I wanted, |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
45. that is what is particularly galling, isn't it? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 10:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
62. "what is right" has become subjective... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. If YOUR life was on the line, maybe you wouldn't find it so entertaining to judge others. |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm with you. |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. What white_wolf said. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. It's only 'unsensible' to think that ANY politician would fight for your ideas |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. I am sick to death of the ridiculous argument that |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Not everyone who supports this administration is saying that. & The converse of your statement is |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. You are right. Our last five Presidents have allowed |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. "we are no different than our former enemies Soviet Russia and China" |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. You have the right to determine that for yourself, but not for others, especially when |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Don't you think that single-payer or at the very least a |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. Absolutely! The question is how to do that effectively, without getting suckered (again) |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. But you're not the only one. |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. You beat me to it! |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
12. Me too. |
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apples and oranges (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
13. What are you doing to change things? |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:43 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Giving what little money I can spare to real progessive canidates. |
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apples and oranges (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I don't think money is the answer. Look at what was accomplished in Wisconsin |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I don't think it is either, but |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:24 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. Writing letters? Making phone calls? Attending hearings? Using all types of social media? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
46. As long as it is always someone else who is supposed to ________________, |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. People are being systematically impoverished. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
49. Yeah, what happened to poor people didn't matter, because it was "THEM". |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I know a lot of people who are focusing their energies down ballot now, |
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Scuba (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
18. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. n/t |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I'd rather live on... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Yes, well the way things are going in this country |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Oh, Jesus... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. As much as I like all three of those, |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Dude... |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. First of all, quit with the Dude comments. It sounds childish |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Dude... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
50. Numbers are what make things right or wrong? That's not terribly Liberal of you. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
58. Are you aware how this stuff about "Dude" is kind of an odd thing for a Liberal to say? |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:14 PM Response to Reply #21 |
53. That's pretty much guaranteed if enough of us wait until daddy gets it perfect before we |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
26. Spend less time complaining about Obama and go make this candidate |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:17 PM Response to Reply #26 |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. 1++++++++++++ |
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Search4Justice (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
27. I agree, I'm tired of limp noodle.. |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 05:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I wonder if all progressives just left the party at once and |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. No... |
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Search4Justice (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. I don't pretend to speak for .. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. Some of us think that is a very unrealistic "understanding" of how things work, some of us such as |
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Search4Justice (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 07:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. I "understand" that .. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. I was guessing that was in there somewhere. Please respond to what would FIRST happen: |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. Please give us a plausible scenario in which the Greens can deliver on our national issues in, say, |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
59. The Greens have no interest in poverty. I am beyond working for or even voting for anyone |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Oh, I know a few Greens who are around the Quakers who are serious about poverty. Others are |
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I Drink Water (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
32. I don't mind moderation and compromise, but not with this vile and wretched GOP |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
34. Agree, and this "entitlement" shit. Societies take care of their own and that's |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
56. Agree!! Noblese oblige (the obligations of nobility) makes me want to puke and yet that's the sum |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
36. gee how original. I think everyone wants that. |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
39. waaaahh! I want a pony! Waaahhh! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Just because some people observe that other people want things to appear out of nowhere, so that |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
40. What is at dispute here is the definition of the word "fight". Assumptions, such as, |
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white_wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Fighting would entail not making backroom deals with insurance companies |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Agree. And what all did you do during those debates? Wait? And . . . |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
42. Apparently, from some answers in this thread, what is also at dispute here is who is supposed to |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-11 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
52. Have a president and congress that fights for your ideas? And you still believe in Santa... |
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